Muthu,

If you are using virtual link why is this still multihop BFD ?

Thx,
R.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 6:22 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <
muthu.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ketan,
>
> Sure, looking forward to the clarification in the draft on multi-hop BFD..
>
> Just curious, are there interoperable implementations for OSPF multi-hop
> BFD strict mode for virtual links or p2p unnumbered interfaces?
>
> Regards,
> Muthu
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Muthu,
>>
>> When we say a "link" here, it is in the context of the OSPF interface and
>> neighbor FSM. My understanding is that this term includes virtual links as
>> well. As such, we can add some text in the introduction section to clarify
>> the same and also put a reference to RFC5883 for BFD multi-hop use for
>> VLINKs.
>>
>> I hope that works for you.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ketan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 11:05 AM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <
>> muthu.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ketan,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response..
>>>
>>> The draft says:
>>> <snip>
>>>    This document defines the B-bit in the LLS Type 1 Extended Options
>>>    and Flags field.  This bit is defined for the LLS block included in
>>>    Hello and Database Description (DD) packets and
>>> *indicates that BFD is   enabled on the link* and that the router
>>> requests strict-mode for BFD.
>>> </smip>
>>>
>>> You don't enable multi-hop BFD on a link, instead you enable it b/w two
>>> (multi-hop) routers, right?
>>>
>>> How about replacing it with:
>>> indicates that (1) single-hop BFD [RFC5881] is enabled on the link in
>>> case of point-to-point (numbered) and LAN interfaces, and (2) multi-hop BFD
>>> [RFC5883] is enabled between the neighbors in case of virtual links and
>>> point-to-point unnumbered interfaces.
>>>
>>> Also, add a note at the beginning of the draft that BFD refers to both
>>> single-hop and multi-hop BFD when not explicitly specified..
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Muthu
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 10:40 PM Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Muthu,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your review and your support.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding your question, I would like to clarify that this document
>>>> doesn't specify BFD operations with OSPF. That was done by RFC5882. Indeed
>>>> for virtual links, there would need to be a BFD multi-hop session and the
>>>> same would apply to p-t-p unnumbered.
>>>>
>>>> However, I am not sure what specific applicability or operations need
>>>> to be called out for Strict Mode of operations for those links.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ketan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 12:52 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <
>>>> muthu.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I support the draft. A quick question:
>>>>> Should it describe the applicability of the mechanism over OSPF
>>>>> virtual links and unnumbered interfaces? With virtual links, one would 
>>>>> have
>>>>> to establish a multi-hop BFD session, so it is slightly different from a
>>>>> BFD operational standpoint. For e.g, capability to support single-hop BFD
>>>>> may not translate to the capability to support multi-hop BFD..
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Muthu
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:38 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee=
>>>>> 40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LSR WG,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This begins a two week last call for the subject draft. Please
>>>>>> indicate your support or objection on this list prior to 12:00 AM UTC on
>>>>>> February 11th, 20222. Also, review comments are certainly welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Acee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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