inline  w/ [DC]

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:49 AM Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Deb -
>
> Thanx for your review.
> Responses inline.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deb Cooley via Datatracker <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 4:57 AM
> > To: The IESG <[email protected]>
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> ;
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> > Subject: Deb Cooley's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-16: (with
> > COMMENT)
> >
> > Deb Cooley has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-16: No Objection
> >
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> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Thank you to David Mandelberg for their secdir reviews.  Also for the
> detailed
> > shepherd review by Yingzhen Qu.
> >
> > General:  I think the definition and explanation of how the term 'key'
> as used
> > in this context is good.  I also agree w/ Ketan's comment on lines
> 247-251 for
> > how to clarify the wording about where 'key' is defined for a given TLV.
> >
> [LES:] Ketan's concern was addressed in V15 of the draft.
> Whether Ketan is satisfied w the revised wording is unknown since he is
> currently away and has not been able to respond - but as the revised
> wording is very close to what he suggested I am optimistic.
> If you have reviewed the revised wording and still have a concern, please
> let me know.
> For your convenience, the revised text is:
>
> " Also note the definition of the "key" is part of the specification(s)
> that define(s) the TLV and is therefore outside the scope of this document."
>

[DC]  If Ketan is happy, then I am as well.


>
> > Section 10:  The ability to add multiple TLVs to an IS-IS session
> (possibly not
> > the right word) may increase the ability to cause a denial of service via
> > resource exhaustion.  If that is a risk, please address this security
> concern.
> > Otherwise, please clarify why it isn't a concern.
> >
> [LES:] There is nothing today that prevents an attacker from inserting
> multiple copies of a TLV for a given object (with or without varying
> content).
> Implementations which support MP-TLV are likely to be more resilient in
> the face of such attacks.
> This point was discussed in the context of Mohammed's review of V11 and
> the following text was added to the Security section:
>
> " Note that support for MP-TLV may result in an implementation being more
> robust in handling unexpected occurrences of MP-TLV."
>

[DC]  Just to be sure I understand, a system that supports MP-TLV can
discard extraneous TLV copies more efficiently than older systems?  Or is
there more to it than that?  [I did see that sentence, and without the
context of a possible DOS via a resource exhaustion attack, I wasn't sure
if that was the point.]

>
>     Les
>
>
> >
>
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