Acee -


The immediate driver for this draft comes from  
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prz-lsr-ash-packets/ which needs to 
signal support for the new PDUs.

That draft currently proposes a mechanism specific to that use case.

But I had commented - and Tony P agreed - that it would be more forward looking 
to define something more generic - which is what this draft does.



I absolutely do NOT want to include the ash-packet use case in this draft as 
that would create a circular dependency between the two drafts.

I would hope you see the wisdom in that.


I also have another use case in mind - but that draft has yet to be written.



But if you are worried that we are defining something that will never get used 
- relax - not the case. 😊



   Les







>-----Original Message-----

>From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>

>Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 11:17 AM

>To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>

>Cc: lsr <[email protected]>

>Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-

>capability-00.txt

>

>

>

>> On Sep 3, 2026, at 2:12 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

>wrote:

>>

>> Acee -

>>

>> Nothing is being hidden. There are no features defined as of yet.

>>

>> That said, in the context of other drafts - some existing - some yet to be

>published - use cases will be defined.

>>

>> This draft is intentionally just the "plumbing".

>

>And in that sense, this is the "pipe to nowhere"... I wouldn't think we'd 
>adopt a

>draft without at least one compelling use case.

>

>Acee

>

>

>

>>

>>    Les

>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 11:05 AM

>>> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

>>> Cc: lsr <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

>>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-

>>> capability-00.txt

>>>

>>> Speaking as WG member:

>>>

>>>> On Sep 3, 2026, at 10:33 AM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)

>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>  wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Folks -

>>>>

>>>> Tony P and I have posted a new document defining a new TLV to be

>included

>>> in hellos. The new TLV  supports advertisement of optional features useful 
>>> in

>>> establishing/maintaining adjacencies.

>>>

>>> It seems the draft should include these useful optional features that need 
>>> to

>>> discovered prior to establishing an adjacency.

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>> Acee

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Comments welcomed.

>>>>

>>>>  Les

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 7:30 AM

>>>> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Tony Przygienda

>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-

>00.txt

>>>>

>>>> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-00.txt

>has

>>>> been successfully submitted by Les Ginsberg and posted to the

>>>> IETF repository.

>>>>

>>>> Name:     draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability

>>>> Revision: 00

>>>> Title:    IS-IS Hello Capability

>>>> Date:     2026-09-03

>>>> Group:    Individual Submission

>>>> Pages:    6

>>>> URL:      
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-

>>> 00.txt

>>>> Status:   
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability/>

>capability/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability/>

>>>> HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-

>>> capability

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Abstract:

>>>>

>>>>  Advertisement of capabilities in Hellos is useful to allow support of

>>>>  optional features in establishing and maintaining adjacencies.  This

>>>>  document defines a new TLV to be sent in hellos to advertise such

>>>>  capabilities.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The IETF Secretariat

>>>>

>>>>

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