Plus one obviously here and it was Les’ suggestion to pull that out from the ash  draft which I fully support. this will prove useful for lots of other stuff I can imagine

I’m working currently on something else, but we’ll rewrite the ash draft to point to that one

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On 3 Sep 2026, at 20:31, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]> wrote:



Acee -

 

The immediate driver for this draft comes from  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prz-lsr-ash-packets/ which needs to signal support for the new PDUs.

That draft currently proposes a mechanism specific to that use case.

But I had commented - and Tony P agreed - that it would be more forward looking to define something more generic - which is what this draft does.

 

I absolutely do NOT want to include the ash-packet use case in this draft as that would create a circular dependency between the two drafts.

I would hope you see the wisdom in that.

 

I also have another use case in mind - but that draft has yet to be written.

 

But if you are worried that we are defining something that will never get used - relax - not the case. 😊

 

   Les

 

 

 

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>

>Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 11:17 AM

>To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>

>Cc: lsr <[email protected]>

>Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-

>capability-00.txt

> 

> 

> 

>> On Sep 3, 2026, at 2:12 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>

>wrote:

>> 

>> Acee -

>> 

>> Nothing is being hidden. There are no features defined as of yet.

>> 

>> That said, in the context of other drafts - some existing - some yet to be

>published - use cases will be defined.

>> 

>> This draft is intentionally just the "plumbing".

> 

>And in that sense, this is the "pipe to nowhere"... I wouldn't think we'd adopt a

>draft without at least one compelling use case.

> 

>Acee

> 

> 

> 

>> 

>>    Les

>> 

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>

>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 11:05 AM

>>> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>

>>> Cc: lsr <[email protected]>

>>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-

>>> capability-00.txt

>>> 

>>> Speaking as WG member:

>>> 

>>>> On Sep 3, 2026, at 10:33 AM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)

>>> <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> Folks -

>>>> 

>>>> Tony P and I have posted a new document defining a new TLV to be

>included

>>> in hellos. The new TLV  supports advertisement of optional features useful in

>>> establishing/maintaining adjacencies.

>>> 

>>> It seems the draft should include these useful optional features that need to

>>> discovered prior to establishing an adjacency.

>>> 

>>> Thanks,

>>> Acee

>>> 

>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Comments welcomed.

>>>> 

>>>>  Les

>>>> 

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>

>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 7:30 AM

>>>> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; Tony Przygienda

>>> <[email protected]>

>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-

>00.txt

>>>> 

>>>> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-00.txt

>has

>>>> been successfully submitted by Les Ginsberg and posted to the

>>>> IETF repository.

>>>> 

>>>> Name:     draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability

>>>> Revision: 00

>>>> Title:    IS-IS Hello Capability

>>>> Date:     2026-09-03

>>>> Group:    Individual Submission

>>>> Pages:    6

>>>> URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-

>>> 00.txt

>>>> Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-

>capability/

>>>> HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-

>>> capability

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Abstract:

>>>> 

>>>>  Advertisement of capabilities in Hellos is useful to allow support of

>>>>  optional features in establishing and maintaining adjacencies.  This

>>>>  document defines a new TLV to be sent in hellos to advertise such

>>>>  capabilities.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> The IETF Secretariat

>>>> 

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