we could but it won't express the full semantics we may want here. if the
adjacency shows L1/L2 but we want to say specifically let's say ASH works
only in L1 we cannot do that on P2P right now.

-- tony

On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 2:06 PM Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Tony,
>
> > On Sep 18, 2026, at 4:42 AM, Tony Przygienda <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > here's an interesting observation. the capability does not distinguish
> L1/L2 and on P2P we have a single IIH so it's implicitly "capability is for
> both levels" and that presents implications for e.g. ASH where on broadcast
> it will separate per level but on P2P both levels are implied.
> >
> > not sure we should do anything about it but just factual observation
>
> Wouldn't the capability scoping just follow the IS-IS adjaceny, L1, L2, of
> L1/L2?
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
>
> >
> > -- tony
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 6, 2026 at 4:56 PM Tony Przygienda <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Plus one obviously here and it was Les’ suggestion to pull that out from
> the ash  draft which I fully support. this will prove useful for lots of
> other stuff I can imagine
> >
> > I’m working currently on something else, but we’ll rewrite the ash draft
> to point to that one
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 3 Sep 2026, at 20:31, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg=
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Acee -
> >>  The immediate driver for this draft comes from
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prz-lsr-ash-packets/ which needs
> to signal support for the new PDUs.
> >> That draft currently proposes a mechanism specific to that use case.
> >> But I had commented - and Tony P agreed - that it would be more forward
> looking to define something more generic - which is what this draft does.
> >>  I absolutely do NOT want to include the ash-packet use case in this
> draft as that would create a circular dependency between the two drafts.
> >> I would hope you see the wisdom in that.
> >>  I also have another use case in mind - but that draft has yet to be
> written.
> >>  But if you are worried that we are defining something that will never
> get used - relax - not the case. 😊
> >>     Les
> >>    >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
> >> >Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 11:17 AM
> >> >To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
> >> >Cc: lsr <[email protected]>
> >> >Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for
> draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-
> >> >capability-00.txt
> >> > > > >> On Sep 3, 2026, at 2:12 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <
> [email protected]>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> Acee -
> >> >> >> Nothing is being hidden. There are no features defined as of yet.
> >> >> >> That said, in the context of other drafts - some existing - some
> yet to be
> >> >published - use cases will be defined.
> >> >> >> This draft is intentionally just the "plumbing".
> >> > >And in that sense, this is the "pipe to nowhere"... I wouldn't think
> we'd adopt a
> >> >draft without at least one compelling use case.
> >> > >Acee
> >> > > > >> >>    Les
> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 11:05 AM
> >> >>> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
> >> >>> Cc: lsr <[email protected]>
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for
> draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-
> >> >>> capability-00.txt
> >> >>> >>> Speaking as WG member:
> >> >>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2026, at 10:33 AM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>> Folks -
> >> >>>> >>>> Tony P and I have posted a new document defining a new TLV to
> be
> >> >included
> >> >>> in hellos. The new TLV  supports advertisement of optional features
> useful in
> >> >>> establishing/maintaining adjacencies.
> >> >>> >>> It seems the draft should include these useful optional
> features that need to
> >> >>> discovered prior to establishing an adjacency.
> >> >>> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Acee
> >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Comments welcomed.
> >> >>>> >>>>  Les
> >> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2026 7:30 AM
> >> >>>> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; Tony Przygienda
> >> >>> <[email protected]>
> >> >>>> Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-
> >> >00.txt
> >> >>>> >>>> A new version of Internet-Draft
> draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-00.txt
> >> >has
> >> >>>> been successfully submitted by Les Ginsberg and posted to the
> >> >>>> IETF repository.
> >> >>>> >>>> Name:     draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability
> >> >>>> Revision: 00
> >> >>>> Title:    IS-IS Hello Capability
> >> >>>> Date:     2026-09-03
> >> >>>> Group:    Individual Submission
> >> >>>> Pages:    6
> >> >>>> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-capability-
> >> >>> 00.txt
> >> >>>> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-
> >> >capability/
> >> >>>> HTMLized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ginsberg-lsr-hello-
> >> >>> capability
> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> Abstract:
> >> >>>> >>>>  Advertisement of capabilities in Hellos is useful to allow
> support of
> >> >>>>  optional features in establishing and maintaining adjacencies.
> This
> >> >>>>  document defines a new TLV to be sent in hellos to advertise such
> >> >>>>  capabilities.
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