Jeffrey P Kantor wrote:
Hi Zeljko,

Actually you can set mailman (the tool we use for lsst lists) lists to be
"private", that is to require someone to be subscribed to see the list
contents and you have enter your email and password.  This is a
configuration setting.  Then the administrator simply manages who is allowed
to subscribe.  I believe (after some initial confusion on the list manager's
part) this is how the lsst-scmgt list is configured.

You can also set the entire list so that it is hidden from the overall list
directory page, so you have to know the name of the list to find it.

Of course, for lsst-data, we WANT the list to be readable, so it is not set
that way.  But this can be done on an individual list basis, so if you
wanted lsst-sc that way for example, it can be set with those parameters.

Thanks! I think you already explained that once to me.

My problem is more philosophical: people tend not to send
postings to email lists because they are so public. The
volume of email related to lsst that is send to private
email addresses in everyone's mailbox can easily prove
this assertion. There may be other reasons too, but it
is my impression that the public nature of lsst-* lists
is a significant factor.

A large fraction of email conversation in the project
that doesn't get posted to lsst-* lists is very bad for
at least two important reasons:

- that conversation is not archived
- its distribution is limited only to those on a sender's
  private list

Both of these are likely to have a significant negative impact
on the project.

I believe that project-wide, but invisible to the world, lists
would help. And repeated insistence by the project management
that private email exchanges are not good for the project.
Even when their content is trivial.  We must have lively
project wide communication that is not accessible to google
robots. Even after google people join us.


   Cheers,

   Zeljko



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