Hi,

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Serge E. Hallyn <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Serge E. Hallyn <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LTP] [PATCH] proc01: SELinux with attr/* Interface - version 2
> To: "CAI Qian" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Kamalesh Babulal" <[email protected]>, [email protected], 
> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 11:50 PM
> Quoting CAI Qian ([email protected]):
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Serge E. Hallyn
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Serge E. Hallyn <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [LTP] [PATCH] proc01: SELinux with
> attr/* Interface - version 2
> > > To: "CAI Qian" <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: "Kamalesh Babulal"
> <[email protected]>, [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected]
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 10:57 PM
> > > Quoting CAI Qian ([email protected]):
> > > > Kamalesh Babulal, well, my approach is that
> anyone who
> > > cares about 
> > > > AppArmor can add a list of files should work
> to the
> > > code. it is fair that if different LSMs behave
> differently,
> > > we'll need different lists
> > > > (selinux_should_work and
> apparmor_should_work) to deal
> > > with them.
> > > > 
> > > > > To make it
> > > > > generic can we 
> > > > > just skip reading the list of files, if
> they
> > > return EINVAL
> > > > > or else we 
> > > > > have to support checking of different
> LSM's
> > > and add
> > > > > support for each of 
> > > > > them individually.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, but then you will still need to treat
> different
> > > LSMs differently.
> > > > 
> > > > >       Agree that the coverage of the
> testcase is going
> > > to be
> > > > > reduced. It will be 
> > > > > reduced more because the list which we
> are taking
> > > care is
> > > > > incomplete, 
> > > > 
> > > > Which ones are missing -- should return
> EINVAL with
> > > SELinux
> > > > disabled? 
> > > > 
> > > > > we could need to add other files to the
> list like
> > > nfs to be
> > > > > skipped. 
> > > > > Sending another patch which will ignore
> the file
> > > if it
> > > > > returns EINVAL or else 
> > > > > throw warning.
> > > > 
> > > > This patch won't able to catch attr/*
> entries
> > > return
> > > > EINVAL while SELinux is enabled. It does not
> look like
> > > a good
> > > > approach to me, because it is a test
> coverage
> > > regression.
> > > > 
> > > > CAI Qian
> > > 
> > > So, just to try and think through this...  If no
> LSM is
> > > enabled,
> > > the files should return -EINVAL.  If they
> don't return
> > > -EINVAL,
> > > is that a situation we care about?  What would it
> mean?
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, Stephen Smalley from National Security Agency of
> U.S. told it
> > means "security modules (e.g. capability)
> don't support any of those 
> > interfaces", so if another errno is returned, it
> should be brought up
> > to attention.
> 
> Obviously the correct behavior depends upon the security
> subsystem,
> but you're finagling the checks into fs-specific
> checks.
> 
> It seems to me that if you're going to check for
> correct return
> values from these functions, you should do so under
> testcases/kernel/security.

Well, it is fine to put some of those checks under another separate 
test, but it looks to me that it is probably easier and simpler here 
to consider those two tightly coupled component all together in this
case. Because the test should not simple blindly skip those entries
due to the reasons I have stated before, and people may run this test 
with SELinux on/off or AppArmor on/off (not consider other Linux 
security modules) as those are all valid test environment setup, we'll 
then have 3 different unique conditions:

1. SELinux on (attr/* read successfuly)
2. AppArmor on (???)
3. SELinux off and AppArmor off (attr/* read with -EINVAL)

As the result, the above checking code will need to be present in both
proc01 and a new test.

CAI Qian

> 
> -serge

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