Jeff, 

I was looking to see if the word document you were talking about was posted 
to the list.  I couln't find it.  Could I please get a copy of that.  I am 
very interested in looking at different ways to scale LTSP for larger 
environments.  Better yet, perhaps you could paste it into an e-mail and 
post it to the list.

Thanks,
Derek

Quoting Jeff Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Ken,
> 
> FYI,I wasn't able to open with Abiword[0.9.6.1], but it did open in the
> MS Word viewer running under wine[If anybody hasnt taken a look at the
> codeweavers crossover plugin, they should. It is very impressive and has
> been very convenient to me just in the last two days.]
> 
> Very nice document, the info on running more than one ltsp server is
> very helpful.  The entire document is insightful.  I found the info
> covering debian interesting as well.  I have been using RedHat just
> becuase I've always used it, but I think I'll try the Debian and see
> what I think. 
> 
> I have set up a second box running its own dhcp with only an entry for
> the station I'm testing with. So far so good. I went ahead and loaded
> the ximian desktop before installing ltsp, becuase that is the easiest
> way I know get reasonably current versions of abiword,gnumeric and
> evolution.  I havent gotten much further than just getting a login, but
> it looks ok so far.
> 
> BTW, the ltsp 3.0 is very impressive, my hats off to everyone involved
> and all the folks who support and use ltsp.  It was great last year when
> we switched most of our Windows NT Terminal Servers to ltsp, but it has
> definitely matured and gotten even better. I think, no I know, users of
> ltsp are at the forefront of gaining even more mainstream respect for
> linux, particularly on the desktop.
> 
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 21:49, Ken McCord wrote:
> > Hi Jeff,
> > 
> > Try this one - Word 6.0 format.
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > 
> > Jeff Roberts wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ken, I was unable to open the file with Abiword, or the MS Word 
viewer.
> > > Could you send it again?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 21:05, Ken McCord wrote:
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > Here's a prelimary version of the document - I'm having problems
> getting
> > > > the LTSP files downloaded this evening, so I'm not going to have a
> > > > chance to test the second server configuration.  Also, note that I
> > > > didn't get a chance to properly discuss running applications off the
> > > > LTSP servers - I just installed the same apps on both (there is a
> better
> > > > way).
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you think.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Roberts wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Great, I look forward to it. The sooner the better :)
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 13:18, Ken McCord wrote:
> > > > > > This is something I'll be working on in the LTSP Howto I'm
> writing.
> > > > > > I've already got it sketched out, now just have to write it up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ken McCord
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Derek Dresser wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Quoting Jeff Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I currently have a ltsp server version 2.08pre2 serving 
gnome
> desktops
> > > > > > > > for about 20 desktops. the server is a dual pII-400 with 1 
gig
> of ram
> > > > > > > > and scsi drives.  We have run this configuration for about a
> year with
> > > > > > > > almost no problems.  We only run netscape, ssh and the 
citrix
> client on
> > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would like to give version 3 a try and I would also like 
to
> run the
> > > > > > > > lastest versions of abiword, gnumeric, evolution, and 
galeon on
> the
> > > > > > > > server.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I really dont want to mess up a working server, and I am 
also
> concerned
> > > > > > > > that the increased application load could cause problems.  I
> have a dual
> > > > > > > > p2-300 box available.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What I would like to do is :
> > > > > > > > 1.  Load the spare box with redhat 7.2, the latest release 
of
> ltsp, and
> > > > > > > > ximian gnome.
> > > > > > > > 2.  Then move a few users from the other ltsp server to the
> newer
> > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > 3.  After I am comfortable, I could then take the old box 
and
> install
> > > > > > > > the same setup on it. Then load balance (manually I suppose)
> between the
> > > > > > > > two servers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would like to know if this is the best solution, and what 
the
> best
> > > > > > > > configuration would be.  The existing server is also the 
dhcp
> server.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it possble to run dhcp on both ltsp servers and just 
include
> entries
> > > > > > > > in each server's dhcp.conf for the terminals I want to boot 
off
> each
> > > > > > > > respective server?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff,
> > > > > > > I've been giving this some though lately myself.  I'm thinking
> about load
> > > > > > > balancing and redundancy.  My LTSP setup is very stable, but
> catastrophes
> > > > > > > do happen, and if that server goes down, the whole world is
> down.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For load balancing, there are two options I am thinking about.
> > > > > > > 1. MOSIX clustering (www.mosix.org) - this will transparently
> migrate
> > > > > > > processes from server to server (or workstation) to balance 
the
> load over
> > > > > > > the available resources.  This seems like a cool way to do it
> because it
> > > > > > > will spread the load accross multiple boxes automagically.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. Application servers - In this scenario, you could leave your
> current
> > > > > > > stable server running as is (hey, if it ain't broke....), and
> just use rsh
> > > > > > > or ssh to run the additional software on the new box.  You 
could
> add links
> > > > > > > to the users desktops with the rsh or ssh commands ready to 
go. 
> The
> > > > > > > extreme case of this would be to set up a server for each
> application (star
> > > > > > > office server, mozilla server, etc.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm looking for ideas to provide redundancy, so if my main 
login
> server
> > > > > > > goes down, users could simply log in again to a secondary 
server.
>  I've
> > > > > > > been looking at using the XDM chooser to allow users to choose
> between
> > > > > > > login servers based on load, but ideally, the users wouldn't 
have
> to know
> > > > > > > that there were multiple servers, they would just log in again
> and keep on
> > > > > > > truckin'.  Any ideas?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for the dhcp server, you would really only need to run the
> dhcp server
> > > > > > > on one machine and then just set the server option to the
> appropriate
> > > > > > > machine to boot from.
> > > > > > > I think the dhcp option is
> > > > > > > next-server    192.168.0.254
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Derek
> > > > > > >
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