If its ok with Ken I'll post it, or he can. -Jeff
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 11:29, Derek Dresser wrote: > Jeff, > > I was looking to see if the word document you were talking about was posted > to the list. I couln't find it. Could I please get a copy of that. I am > very interested in looking at different ways to scale LTSP for larger > environments. Better yet, perhaps you could paste it into an e-mail and > post it to the list. > > Thanks, > Derek > > Quoting Jeff Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Ken, > > > > FYI,I wasn't able to open with Abiword[0.9.6.1], but it did open in the > > MS Word viewer running under wine[If anybody hasnt taken a look at the > > codeweavers crossover plugin, they should. It is very impressive and has > > been very convenient to me just in the last two days.] > > > > Very nice document, the info on running more than one ltsp server is > > very helpful. The entire document is insightful. I found the info > > covering debian interesting as well. I have been using RedHat just > > becuase I've always used it, but I think I'll try the Debian and see > > what I think. > > > > I have set up a second box running its own dhcp with only an entry for > > the station I'm testing with. So far so good. I went ahead and loaded > > the ximian desktop before installing ltsp, becuase that is the easiest > > way I know get reasonably current versions of abiword,gnumeric and > > evolution. I havent gotten much further than just getting a login, but > > it looks ok so far. > > > > BTW, the ltsp 3.0 is very impressive, my hats off to everyone involved > > and all the folks who support and use ltsp. It was great last year when > > we switched most of our Windows NT Terminal Servers to ltsp, but it has > > definitely matured and gotten even better. I think, no I know, users of > > ltsp are at the forefront of gaining even more mainstream respect for > > linux, particularly on the desktop. > > > > > > -Jeff > > > > On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 21:49, Ken McCord wrote: > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > > > Try this one - Word 6.0 format. > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > Jeff Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > > Ken, I was unable to open the file with Abiword, or the MS Word > viewer. > > > > Could you send it again? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 21:05, Ken McCord wrote: > > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > > > > > > > Here's a prelimary version of the document - I'm having problems > > getting > > > > > the LTSP files downloaded this evening, so I'm not going to have a > > > > > chance to test the second server configuration. Also, note that I > > > > > didn't get a chance to properly discuss running applications off the > > > > > LTSP servers - I just installed the same apps on both (there is a > > better > > > > > way). > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Great, I look forward to it. The sooner the better :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 13:18, Ken McCord wrote: > > > > > > > This is something I'll be working on in the LTSP Howto I'm > > writing. > > > > > > > I've already got it sketched out, now just have to write it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken McCord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Derek Dresser wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Jeff Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I currently have a ltsp server version 2.08pre2 serving > gnome > > desktops > > > > > > > > > for about 20 desktops. the server is a dual pII-400 with 1 > gig > > of ram > > > > > > > > > and scsi drives. We have run this configuration for about a > > year with > > > > > > > > > almost no problems. We only run netscape, ssh and the > citrix > > client on > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to give version 3 a try and I would also like > to > > run the > > > > > > > > > lastest versions of abiword, gnumeric, evolution, and > galeon on > > the > > > > > > > > > server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really dont want to mess up a working server, and I am > also > > concerned > > > > > > > > > that the increased application load could cause problems. I > > have a dual > > > > > > > > > p2-300 box available. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I would like to do is : > > > > > > > > > 1. Load the spare box with redhat 7.2, the latest release > of > > ltsp, and > > > > > > > > > ximian gnome. > > > > > > > > > 2. Then move a few users from the other ltsp server to the > > newer > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > 3. After I am comfortable, I could then take the old box > and > > install > > > > > > > > > the same setup on it. Then load balance (manually I suppose) > > between the > > > > > > > > > two servers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know if this is the best solution, and what > the > > best > > > > > > > > > configuration would be. The existing server is also the > dhcp > > server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possble to run dhcp on both ltsp servers and just > include > > entries > > > > > > > > > in each server's dhcp.conf for the terminals I want to boot > off > > each > > > > > > > > > respective server? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff, > > > > > > > > I've been giving this some though lately myself. I'm thinking > > about load > > > > > > > > balancing and redundancy. My LTSP setup is very stable, but > > catastrophes > > > > > > > > do happen, and if that server goes down, the whole world is > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For load balancing, there are two options I am thinking about. > > > > > > > > 1. MOSIX clustering (www.mosix.org) - this will transparently > > migrate > > > > > > > > processes from server to server (or workstation) to balance > the > > load over > > > > > > > > the available resources. This seems like a cool way to do it > > because it > > > > > > > > will spread the load accross multiple boxes automagically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Application servers - In this scenario, you could leave your > > current > > > > > > > > stable server running as is (hey, if it ain't broke....), and > > just use rsh > > > > > > > > or ssh to run the additional software on the new box. You > could > > add links > > > > > > > > to the users desktops with the rsh or ssh commands ready to > go. > > The > > > > > > > > extreme case of this would be to set up a server for each > > application (star > > > > > > > > office server, mozilla server, etc.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for ideas to provide redundancy, so if my main > login > > server > > > > > > > > goes down, users could simply log in again to a secondary > server. > > I've > > > > > > > > been looking at using the XDM chooser to allow users to choose > > between > > > > > > > > login servers based on load, but ideally, the users wouldn't > have > > to know > > > > > > > > that there were multiple servers, they would just log in again > > and keep on > > > > > > > > truckin'. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for the dhcp server, you would really only need to run the > > dhcp server > > > > > > > > on one machine and then just set the server option to the > > appropriate > > > > > > > > machine to boot from. > > > > > > > > I think the dhcp option is > > > > > > > > next-server 192.168.0.254 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Derek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. 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