Hello Zoilo,

Friday, February 14, 2003, 12:11:01 PM, you wrote:

ldrlsn> It's just that my setup is not at a school, where I would encourage my
ldrlsn> students to try and hack the machine to learn from it; instead my 
ldrlsn> LTSP-setup is running an open kiosk environment, where I cannot trust 
ldrlsn> the users at all. I would think that this may also be true for many 
ldrlsn> production environments.

While my response was to your e-mail, I did not mean it to be to your
situation.  I do not know if you mentioned this or not, I simply
assumed you were in a school situation as well.  My comments still
apply to a school situation; but in your situation I agree wholeheartedly
that the kiosk should be locked down as tightly as possible and it should
be limited to its one purpose, be it web browsing or whatever.

David Leuser II,

ldrlsn> >I am not pointing fingers, I am saying in general, trying to do this
ldrlsn> >sort of Windows-world locking down on a Linux system is a sign that
ldrlsn> >the system administrator does not know what they are doing; if all
ldrlsn> >proper patches are applied and things are properly secured, students
ldrlsn> >should not be able to 'hack' a system.  If that happens, I blame it on
ldrlsn> >the system adminstrator.

ldrlsn> Reasonable people can disagree, and I do.  I think it means he/she admits
ldrlsn> they are human.  You would be better off to admit this.

Perhaps I should rephrase myself.  My first words were rather strong
and do not accurately convey what I was trying to say.

It is my belief that if all is in order in regards to system security,
it is very unlikely that anything bad will happen.  In particular, I
doubt that in a school a bunch of teenagers will be able to cause
damage on a linux machine.

If something bad happens, and yes, sh*t happens, live and learn.
Figure out (if it is possible to) what went wrong and fix it so it
doesn't happen again.

I don't think paranoia is in order though.

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