On Wednesday 05 March 2003 01:55 pm, Jarod Kernel wrote:
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> Hi,
> I'am building a LTSP lab in my school. I would like to know what kind of
> network device could I use for the server? Is there a powerfull device to
> use or this is not important? Thanks!
> Enrico
On my terminal server it made a big difference when we installed a gigabit 
over copper cat 5 nic. and a 10/100/1000 switch, which had a gigabit uplink 
port that was then sliced up into multiple 10/100 ports. Our terminals run on 
the intel eepro100 nics, they do cost a little more but they include the pxe 
bootrom stuff. You can get cheaper nics but by the time you mess around with 
the boot roms, and programming them, the eepro100 with its pxe is the better 
deal.
The biggest bennifit of going to gigabit on the server is reduced latency, to 
the user on a terminal this is most noticable when they switch between 
windopanes, such as having several apps running like konqueror, openoffice 
and kmail. all very common apps that are heavily used when clickin on the 
docked tray icon to switch between these apps they refresh alot quicker.
Gigabit over copper also significantly improved the typing response of the 
terminals during periods of heavy traffic load, such as when someone else 
boots an additional terminal on the network.
Gigabit over copper with a gigabit switch for uplink is definatly the way to 
go, the additional expense is only marginal these days and the performance 
difference well outweighs and amortizes the difference in cost.

Go Gigabit on the Server, you users will greatly appriciate it.
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That said on to your other questions, I would not be scared of AMD we run a 
dual mp terminal server hear, in cost perfomance intel just cant touch AMD. 
just go with copper heat sinks. and have a good case fan to move the air 
through.
For computationally intense things the AMD rulz the roost right now, most of 
the clusters being built are using AMD for just this reason, and the cost 
savings.

About the hard drive, If possiable go scsi people will claim that scsi and ide 
are neck and neck in performance but in real world multiuser, high I/O acess 
use ide chokes quickly with its FIFO (first in first out). The first decision 
is capacity or performance, for capacity it is hard to beat ide (use it for 
your removeable backup drive) but if you want a responsive terminal server 
that will be handling more than a handfull of terminals you would definatly 
bennifit from the I/O speed of scsi.  In just raw data transfer from the 
media both technologies appear the same around 50 mb/sec per drive. However 
with scsi you can significantly reduce your head acess time and rotational 
latency. With ide the first user on your network to request a file (maby a 
large one) will soak up all the I/O of the ide drive untill this request is 
filled blocking or reducing acess requests in the FIFO from other users. SCSI 
on the other hand has a tagged command que, and priortization. Beings that 
the drive has a small computer built into it scsi can say oh I am passing the 
read head past the latter requested data why dont I grab it on the way 
sweeping the platter to the prior requested data. Not to mention the speed 
and security of being able to run raid 5 or better in your terminal server. 
we are running a 6 drive segate cheta 9 gig 10krpm with a hardware raid 
controller, I have bench marked our hard drive array at 254 mb/ps but the raw 
data acess speed is not the sweetest part of this array it is the I/O acess 
speed with several terminals all making requests to read and write data`, for 
the users things happen fast with littl latency, somthing all users 
appriciate.

If you have further questions feel free to post them.

> Hi,
> I would like to use LTSP to build a lab in my school. I will buy a server
> to use with existing clients. Thoose are P75Mhz with something like 32Mb
> RAM 10/100 LAN, and an HD about 200Mb. The lab is already cabled.
> I would like to know what kind of hardware I must use to have a good
> server, to make load the client quick ad a local machine. The clients will
> use OO or Kylix. I was thinking about an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 512 or 1Gb
> RAM. Is better to have a SCSI HD? Thanks in advance for your help!
> Grendel

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