On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Evan Hisey wrote:

> shogunx-
>   You can't root a  terminal with Knoppix. With the root file system
> read-only and mounted off the server after boot, all Knoppix gives him
> is a linux workstation, this assumes the clients have cdroms or
> support usb boot.

I'm not talking about rooting a terminal... I'm talking about the server.


>
> Evan
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 05:41:57 -0500 (EST), shogunx
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, A.J. Venter wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Monday, 01 November 2004 10:34, shogunx wrote:
> > > > Set the path of the students who are allowed network access (what, are
> > > > these parents just wishing that their children will become garbage
> > > > collectors?) to include a "quarantined" directory, /usr/local/bin for
> > > > example, that includes the mozilla, netcat, ngrep, nmap, etc. binaries,
> > > > while excluding that from the path of the students without access.  Then
> > > > chmod the users .profile so they cant change it.  You can do it with chgrp
> > > > on the binaries also.
> > > >
> > > Bad idea, any half smart kid would figure out how to change the path after
> > > login (it's just an environment variable) and that you can give full paths
> > > anyway.
> >
> > Even if you chgrp it, a half smart kid will root the box with the
> > knoppix disk he downloaded from his friends house while the teacher
> > is on lunch hour, and be IRCing in no time.  No network access on linux is
> > like sex with no orgasm; whats the point?  So we can waste more time,
> > money and effort building secure NOC's in all the high schools, which
> > won't really be secure, so every school now needs a computer security
> > tech.  If you tell a kid he can't do something, that is his greatest
> > incentive to do it.  Personally, I enjoyed it when I would lunch for 3
> > hours and then go to the beach in high school, knowing full well that the
> > absences would disappear that afternoon when my friend had his
> > strategically placed last period administrative office study hall.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Chgrp'ing the binaries is the only right way to do it.
> > >
> > > Ciao
> > > A.J.
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