Hi Sudev,

Thanks for the advice

Sudev Barar wrote:
> On 29/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 1. Can the Celeron - with a RAM and HD upgrade perform as an LTSP server
>> - and what would be the ideal RAM size.
>>
> 
> Yes. For 2/5 clients 1gb

ok
> 
> 486's are really not adequate. You will need minimum of 32MB RAM
> (which may cost not be available) and you will have to set up swap on
> server of at least 64MB through lts.conf file. For all practical
> purposes they are adequate only for shell and not GUI.
> As you mentioned some one is coming with parts from Delhi, he can pick
> up second hand P-1/2's easily and they would make perfect clients. Do
> not use the HD's. Take them out and maybe add to the server. If they
> are of adequate capacity may be make a RAID1 array on server.
> 
one 486 already has 32 mb ram, and i think i will be able to increase
the other ones ram from 28 to something more


the resources don't stretch to buying anything serious - even old p1's
right now -

what problems can i expect from the 486's - just slow - would they be
slower than win 95 on the same machine - would / should not the server
ram speed them up a bit ??

when you say shell means they utlize the servers resources ?? rather
than their own - if thats the case i am not too unhappy as long as they
get to work

i wouldn't mind the machines being totally dependent on the server -

>> 3. For such old machines - the 486's - which boot system would be ideal
>> - ethernet, pxe, rpl or any other.
>>
> 
> Eherboot would be answer. Look at downloading relevant images from
> rom-o-matic site.
> 
will check it out

>> I would like them to boot without needing a floppy or cd - mainly
>> because the floppy drive is unreliable.
>>
> 
> Fully with you.

> 
>> 4. What network cards ...
> 
> Compex 8139's PCI cards are available <Rs500 in Nehru Place, Delhi,
> and you need to add boot ROM to the socket on cards. ROM's are also
> available in the same market. In case you need ROM's contact me off
> list I would send them to you. I am in Delhi.
> 
>> Which is preferable PCI or ISA
>>
> 
> PCI. Assuming there is PCI slot in those 486's

yeah they do have pci slots
> 
>> will the server autodetect the pci cards - and do i need to buy an
>> special pci cards (pxe enabled or such)
>>
> 
> Server - You mean client? Nothing special. A ethernet card with boot
> ROM boots up first unless you have set up BIOS in some special way.
> 

if i were to use the cd to boot up would i still need the ROM !!

> No. Do not use Muekow for now, I would advise stick with LTSP4 from
> ltsp.org and use ltspadmin package. If you do not mind a little bitof
> learning I would recommend K12LTSP - which is based on Fedora but with
> CD's set to almost automatically install ltsp and also some
> educational software. I can send CD's if bandwidth is limitation.

basically you advise to stay away from Ubuntu !!! - my reason for
sticking to Ubuntu is all the other machines i handle are all ubuntu and
its easy for me to access updates and stuff

however if the wiser thing to do is to go for ltsp4 then sure - whats
the difference between ltsp4 and the k12ltsp and how does eduubuntu compare.

bandwidth - well even calling 31.2 kbps bandwidth is a bit of a joke but
thats my normal speed.

Will mail you offline regarding the software - thanks
> 
>> 6. How far can the clients be from the Server.
>>
> 
> You will need a switch (a hub would add to your woes) and then each
> client can be upto 100 meters away (cable length) without trouble.
> 
ok

I don't think i will connect more than 4 machines including the server -
since this network is partly educational and is very resource strapped.


> That said 486's would be slow and I would strongly suggest minimum of
> P-1's as clients.  HTH.
> 

thanks

regards
ram

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