On 31/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 486's are really not adequate. You will need minimum of 32MB RAM > > (which may cost not be available) and you will have to set up swap on > > server of at least 64MB through lts.conf file. For all practical > > purposes they are adequate only for shell and not GUI. > > > one 486 already has 32 mb ram, and i think i will be able to increase > the other ones ram from 28 to something more >
Minimum need is 32mb although in the ltsp3.xx using 16mb has been tried by me in past. Caution --- realy slow. > the resources don't stretch to buying anything serious - even old p1's > right now - > > what problems can i expect from the 486's - just slow - would they be > slower than win 95 on the same machine - would / should not the server > ram speed them up a bit ?? > No unfortunately screen refresh are still to be done by terminals and this is where 486's slow down. Win98?? Win96 is more like what would run these machines and this would be faster here. > when you say shell means they utlize the servers resources ?? rather > than their own - if thats the case i am not too unhappy as long as they > get to work > Shell means bash shell from server no GUI. Of course if you setup something like icewm may be you can get better performance. > >> 4. What network cards ... > > > >> will the server autodetect the pci cards - and do i need to buy an > >> special pci cards (pxe enabled or such) > >> > > > > Server - You mean client? Nothing special. A ethernet card with boot > > ROM boots up first unless you have set up BIOS in some special way. > > > > if i were to use the cd to boot up would i still need the ROM !! It woud be cheaper to use ROM boot than use CD but yes if you are going to use something like a PXE boot CD then you do not need ROM for ethernet card. > basically you advise to stay away from Ubuntu !!! - my reason for > sticking to Ubuntu is all the other machines i handle are all ubuntu and > its easy for me to access updates and stuff > Ubuntu / Debian is my flavour too but .... Current Gnome is quite bloated and I have seen even P4's with 256mb struggle. K12LTSP project is very well maintained and their mailing list is fabulous with lots of support. My suggestion would be to use Ubuntu if you can force icewm as default manager (some editing of files in /etc/X11 tree needed here) and without launching nuatilus (which is also taking lot of resrouces) and use some light weight file manager like thunar /mc etc. > however if the wiser thing to do is to go for ltsp4 then sure - whats > the difference between ltsp4 and the k12ltsp and how does eduubuntu compare. > Both projects are supported by same community and down the line edubuntu would be a very nice project (although just not there yet!) however my suggestions are more in line / view of extremely low powered clients. > Will mail you offline regarding the software - thanks > > Welcome. > I don't think i will connect more than 4 machines including the server - > since this network is partly educational and is very resource strapped. > May be you can tap some one like Roundtable / Rotary / Lions organisation for donation of old equipment. Also google for a project out of UK that is shipping old CPU's for educational purposes. Best of luck and try joining k12ltsp list too. -- Regards, Sudev Barar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
