On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:26:42PM +0300, Jari Turkia wrote: > Scott Balneaves wrote: > > You don't have to have ubuntu: we provide tarballs up on the website > > that have an LTSP 5 chroot. Download and install on any distro. > > > So you're saying "Download and install on any distro." here: > http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp > I'll definitely be the first to say that I really did not understand > everything there. If possible, point me to the part of the page where it > says so, or to the correct document.
I think Jim pointed you to the right page in another email, so I won't duplicate the effort. > Unlike you, I don't find this funny. I really really would like to > continue having all stuff working here. It includes LTSP. We haven't removed ltsp 4.2: it's still available for download. And I've spent several hours this week in #ltsp helping people with 4.2 questions, so we haven't dropped it, we're just not actively working on it. > > 2) Advocate with your distro: "Hey, Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora are > > working on/have implemented LTSP5 in the distro!! Why aren't we, > > especially when the LTSP developers have said thay're HAPPY to work with > > distro people to get it integrated!" > > > Phew, I already feel much better. :-) > It so happens, that I already did: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234048 Well, you've filed a bug. That's a start. Have you popped by #fedora and asked who's worked on it? What's your nick in #ltsp? Gather together a few interested people. Especially if they've got shell scripting experience. We can put them in touch with the people working on the Fedora port. And anything that's in Fedora can be ported to RH server (I'm assuming that's what your running) pretty easily. > Also it is nice to notice that somebody else already did something about > it: http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP Yup, SuSE's starting, good for them! We'll help them whatever way we can! > However, no matter what you say, all the old things and ways of doing > cannot cease in an instant. With that being said, I know that project > resources are limited. Definitely one day all major distros will support > LTSP, no doubt about that. Unfortunately we're not yet there and > therefore we need to advocate having old things working for a while. Hence, why we're still offering 4.2 for download, and as Jim's pointed out, by request, he's done a kernel update. Plus, we still help people with 4.2 > Also, I'd have a question (ok, in fact there are two) for you: I'm > running x86_64 architecture linux on the server. My clients are of > various ages (oldest one is a P II 350 MHz, runs LTSP /w X great!). What > are my chances of success with LTSP 5? SHould be fine. You can easily install a 386 chroot under an x64 server. > What you're saying that in this > ah-so-much-better-way-of-doing-things I need to have a different set of > packages (of different architecture) in a separate directory for > LTSP-distro You needed this before: we only ever supplied 386 binaries. Chuck and some others came up with a PPC port of 3.0, but it wasn't 4.2. One of the advantages to this method is: you'll be able to create a different arch chroot fairly easily: Need a ppc chroot? No problem: just create it on a PPC machine, and move it onto your host box. Using the distro's PPC packages. Right now, for really different arch's (like ppc, say) you'll have the additional trouble of having to create them on a ppc box. However, maybe at some point in the future, we can integrate qemu support, and you can do the chroot build, and update, on a completely different architecture. Cool, no? > and when everything is properly supported all runs like a > charm and both installations can be kept up to date. Did I get that correct? Yes. That's what we're working towards. Scott -- Scott L. Balneaves | "Eternity is a very long time, Systems Department | especially towards the end." Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Woody Allen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
