On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 01:47 -0500, Jim Kronebusch wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:16:12 -0800, Bill Moseley wrote
> > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 12:30:17AM -0500, Jim Kronebusch wrote:
> > > Best bet, try booting them off of a PPC live CD.  If you get a live CD 
> > > that boots and
> > > starts x, then steal the xorg.conf.  Then move that xorg.conf to the ltsp 
> > > tree on the
> > > server and call on it with custom settings in lts.conf and 
> > > XF86CONFIG_FILE (double check
> > > the syntax on that).  If you google my name along with lts.conf, ppc, or 
> > > XF86CONFIG you
> > > should find some pretty decent instructions on setting this up.  The 
> > > hardest part is
> > > getting a working xorg.conf, and the easiest way is to try different 
> > > flavors of PPC live
> > > CD's.  Then you don't have any time invested in trying an OS to see if it 
> > > will work.
> > 
> > Thanks Jim, that seems promising, although time consuming (sure wish
> > had a faster connection for downloading those live cds).  Any
> > recommendations on which to try?  Small distributions preferred...
> > 
> > I have a Bondi (I think) tray-loading iMac, which is not that
> > uncommon.  Maybe someone here has a working xorg.conf?
> 
> You lucky dog, iMac Bondi (puke green color, otherwise known as bondi blue) 
> are the
> easiest to get going.  The default xorg.conf in K12LTSP PPC tree boots these 
> out of the
> box.  I'll see if I have an older K12LTSP server with that on, otherwise 
> google that or
> get someone on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list to send it to you.
>  
> > I was thinking it was not just a config issue since xorg.conf was
> > using the "vga" driver, which I'd expect to be reasonably generic.
> > The segfault isn't a great sign.
> > 
> > XF86CONFIG_FILE is the option, it seems.  If I set that will running
> > "startx" know to use the custom config automatically?  From Goggle
> > seems that there can be more than one custom config -- not sure I
> > folow that.
> 
> You put the file in /opt/ltsp/ppc/etc and name it XF86Config.yourcustom (or 
> whatever you
> want).  You can put 100 of these in there.  Then in lts.conf you call out 
> custom options
> to each machine, you can use the machine name or Mac address like so:
> 
> [00:03:93:92:88:98]
>          XSERVER            = ati
>          XF86CONFIG_FILE    = XF86Config.yourcustom
> 
> I've seen some not need the XSERVER setting, but I've needed it in the past.  
> Try it and
> set it to any legitimate XSERVER setting, it won't work without it, but will 
> load the
> correct settings from your config file.  If that doesn't work, try commenting 
> it out.
> 
> Craig White I believe is on this list, he just went through a bunch of fun 
> getting this
> working.  Dig up his email and I'll bet he can tell you exactly what to put 
> in your
> lts.conf to get it going, he could probably send you all the config files you 
> need as
> well.   He could probably quick send you the list of commands to set the Mac 
> firmware to
> boot LTSP by default.  Craig, sorry if I am over volunteering your help :-)  
> I just know
> you finally had this all working and as you know my instructions from memory 
> aren't
> always exact.
----
I wouldn't have made it without your help Jim and am only too happy to
pay it forward... ;-)
----
> > > Good luck.
> > 
> > I'm sure hoping.  Took about 40 minutest to get the server and i386
> > clients running, and, oh, a dozen or so hours to get this far with the
> > Apples...
> 
> Yeah, it ain't fun the first time.  K12LTSP has the PPC tree included now by 
> default. 
> If you install K12LTSP, you hold down the N key on startup, and with the out 
> of the box
> setup your Bondi would be running.  There is also an XF86Config-4.indigo file 
> included
> in the default tree that boots Indigo, and Blueberry iMacs and Tangerine, 
> Blueberry and
> Indigo iBooks by default.
----
actually, I had a little problem with XF86Config-4.indigo with iMac-G3
233-600 MHz (including Bondi iMac G3)

feel free to download this configuration from my web server which is
what I used for the above iMac-G3 systems...

http://www.tobyhouse.com/XF86Config-4.snow

Craig


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