/me wonders if tuning gconf for 'reduced resources' (including wireframe 
mode for moving windows) would help a lot of this kind of thing...

http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-list/2007-July/msg00016.html


Cheers,
Jordan/Lns


Gideon Romm wrote:
> Peter,
>
> You have several options available:
>
> 1. LDM_DIRECTX  (set to True in lts.conf, video will not be tunneled
> through ssh and go back to the client directly)
>
> 2. LOCAL_APPS - install java and java programs in the chroot and run
> them as local apps rather than from the server - do the same with ff and
> plugins 
>
> 3. See if you have the optimal video drivers for the thin client
>
> 4. Disable compiz if it is running on the server
>
> These are off the top of my head.  
>
> -Gadi
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 18:34 +0200, Peter Stein wrote:
>   
>> Dear LTSP users,
>>
>> when it comes to convince somebody of LTSP the usability and feeling
>> is crucial. After setting the chroot up we started testing. And here
>> the real problems begin. Our users are scientists, they work for hours
>> in front of their monitor and they are *sorry* pissed if the computer
>> is somewhat sluggish or unusable.
>> We have enormous problems using Java programs like xmaple and others.
>> Some are usable, some not. I am aware of the bug here
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/277069 and
>> installed the libxcb package of Ubuntu karmic which improved the speed
>> a lot. But still it sucks to work with thin clients somehow.
>>
>> - moving windows is sometimes decelerated
>> - firefox dropdown menus still open slowly sometimes (not in konqueror)
>> - input in some java programs like xmaple lags - the program is not usable
>> - videos are not shown with enough fps
>>
>> I have analyzed the traffic a little bit. If you move a window like
>> gnome-terminal traffic jumps to 5-6 MB/s sometimes. CPU of xorg goes
>> up to 45%, ssh uses 20%. If one uses xmaple or other Java programs
>> load goes up to 1.15 which is too much for a single core terminal,
>> traffic jumps to 14-15 MB. This is more than maximum for a 100 MBit/s
>> connection, which is still kind of standard (but tested with GBit/s).
>>
>> We use:
>> Ubuntu Jaunty for servers and chroot
>> terminals have sempron 2100+ (that's not really slow for a terminal)
>> ATI X1200 with free radeon driver
>> the server I used for testing has more than enough power: 8 cores and 16GB 
>> RAM
>>
>> I also tried hpn-ssh http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
>> with no sufficient result.
>> So the problem is:
>>
>> In many cases (like moving a window etc.) xorg and ssh use too much
>> cpu. We changed ssh encryption to blowfish which helped only a little.
>> What can I do to improve this situation. I ran out of ideas. One
>> important program which doesn't work, is enough to make this project
>> rubbish. All my work was for nothing and that would be very
>> disappointing.
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
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