On 9-3-2010 1:52, Reinhard Kotucha wrote:
On 8 March 2010 Hans Hagen wrote:

  >  On 24-2-2010 14:03, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
  >  >  Élie Roux wrote:
  >  >>  Hello,
  >  >>
  >  >>  While trying to get the \LuaTeX and \LuaLaTeX macros into the
  >  >>  LaTeX metalogo package, I tried to make the logos a bit more
  >  >>  fancy but still respecting the style of the LuaTeX manual. Here
  >  >>  is my attempt. What do you think about it? My personal favorites
  >  >>  are proposal 3 for both.
  >  >
  >  >  You probably already know how I feel about this: proposal 1 is my
  >  >  favorite.
  >
  >  Indeed. No fancy shifting needed. It also avoids endless
  >  discussions about how to deal with it in whatever font: just
  >  Lua\TeX as we have been using right from the start.
  >
  >  I don't care about the lualatex logo.

Hans, I fully agree.  This "fancy shifting" is ridiculous, of course.
But it's actually unavoidable because it was introduced by Knuth and
we all know that Knuth is infallible. IMO it's (more than) sufficient
if "Lua\TeX" contains "\TeX".

indeed, and i have definitely have no problem with the tex logo at all as it's Don's nice joke; it's just the additional 'funny' shifting in derived logos that i dislike (esp when using special fonts as in etex and amstex cum suis)

ok, i admit that the random generated metafun logo is also somwhat over the top but at least it sits on the baseline

In order to avoid endless discussions I think that Taco should decide
and carve his decision in stone.

don't worry, we already decided for the simple case long ago; we made the decision before the first version of luatex was demonstrated - at the tug conference in wuhan/china -)

btw, the first instance luatex binary was generated by hartmut so that was actually the moment that the name 'luatex' as program showed up first; those historic bits and pieces are described someplace

Hans


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