Hi Silver, that does make a bit more sense to me. As you know, the pre-post release area already exists for 'Final'. It has had a revamp recently, but both it and the Press Template need to also now allow for the fact we have point releases of our LTS's as and when they come up.
As a template for both LTS point releases and our bi-annual releases with their milestones it reads really good to me. I think when QA / Comms / Wiki can bounce this around, Gustavo and my self can set up a structure better suited to handle the milestone releases for both lubuntu LTS and the lubuntu +1. My thinking is for planning, it would be LTS, LTS.01, LTS.02, LTS.03, LTS.04 This also then needs LTS+1, LTS+1.01 (I think there is a one year wrap over, after which LTS+1 becomes LTS) This would be based upon https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO But would need a sub page for the LTS+1 As these are only every 4 cycles, we could reasonably use the release names (14.04, 16.04, 18.04 ....) For desktop release it would be as we have now at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO for final but with sub pages for the milestones of a1, a2, b1 and b2. These are my thoughts, it is a not actually a massive amount of work to create this structure and once done, the system is in place also ensure we still never delete pages, they just move from 'current' to older. So, there you have my thoughts on how the existing system can be fine tuned for what we have now instead of doing last minute creation / editing of pages. Thoughts, please :) Phill. On 28 February 2015 at 03:04, Silver Lion <[email protected]> wrote: > Good Morning, > > well to be honest with you... that wasn't a draft, that was the original > release information which now gone since you moved it. > > Please reverse this asap! > > I've been refering to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/silverlion/PressTemplate > which contains the internal informations for the QA-Department. > > Regards > Silver > > Am 28.02.2015 um 02:41 schrieb Gustavo Silva: > > Silverlion, >> >> I've created an internal mechanism for us to communicate & test >> statements. >> >> Please visit this link: >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/InternalComms/Communications >> >> I haven't created all "departments" because I don't know everyone's needs. >> However, feel free to create stuff and add content. I've moved over your >> draft to Communications section. >> >> Hope this helps - And let me know if does! >> >> 2015-02-26 0:08 GMT+00:00 Phill Whiteside <[email protected]>: >> >> Hi Folks, >>> >>> Regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO >>> >>> if you look, you will see that the two sets of release notes >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/15.04 >>> and >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu >>> >>> They both have DRAFT stamped on them. They can be edited right up to (and >>> some times after release). Part of the system is that when a new release >>> is >>> a 'go' the old pages get archived and the new ones moved in to their >>> place >>> as quickly as possible, there are a few pages to archive off and then >>> instate the new pre-prepared ones. >>> >>> If people on this chat can keep an eye on >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO >>> It is a central list of what we need to do most prior and post release. >>> Feel free to add in any 'announcement' stuff you want on there. I've >>> concentrated on wiki pages with Gustavo and have simply added in a >>> section >>> for announcing things. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Phill. >>> >>> >>> On 25 February 2015 at 23:38, Walter Lapchynski <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Since you intend this for major releases only, I can't see why it >>>> would be a terrible problem, but there still may need to be some >>>> cleanup at the last minute. Little trifles and such. >>>> >>>> On 2/25/15, Silver Lion <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's going to be a problem because I never know exactly how my office >>>>> hours work pend out... That's why I asked for a little more time for >>>>> preparation... Honestly speaking I hate to knitt everything with a hot >>>>> needle (german saying for doing everything very short before it's going >>>>> to be too late ;) ) >>>>> >>>>> But why don't we check the workflows after 15.04 has been released? >>>>> then >>>>> we've got a little more time to re-configure if necessary. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Silver >>>>> >>>>> Am 26.02.2015 um 00:29 schrieb Walter Lapchynski: >>>>> >>>>>> Well here's the problem I face: I cannot know any sooner than Tuesday >>>>>> before release (Thursday) what the state of the images are. In fact, >>>>>> sometimes (14.04.2) I don't even know until day of release!!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> I could try to make sure testing is done on dailies a week before, but >>>>>> I still won't be able to say anything definite because there's lots of >>>>>> opportunity for changes while we wait. The images are frozen come >>>>>> Tuesday. >>>>>> >>>>>> At least for non-release milestones, that's the case. Beyond that, it >>>>>> shouldn't be too difficult. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you can understand. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Silver Lion <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good evening folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Finally I was able to fullfill wxl's request to get my task-list >>>>>>> (seen >>>>>>> here >>>>>>> below as text version) onto the wiki => >>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/silverlion/PressTemplate >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll also be working on a draft for an offline version for the >>>>>>> announcement >>>>>>> of 15.04. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like QA & Wiki / Docs to consider this list (link see above) as >>>>>>> effective as of now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Wiki & Docs: Please copy this link above to the appropriate places >>>>>>> >>>>>> and >>>> >>>>> have >>>>>>> the mentioned pages in the wiki ready for me asap. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @wxl: I'd appreciate it if you could update the questionaire not only >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> day prior to release. We (aka comms) need to have time to prepare >>>>>>> everything >>>>>>> so _1 Week_ prior to release everything must be ready for us in order >>>>>>> >>>>>> to >>>> >>>>> look professional. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance to everybody for your attention ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Silver >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 05.02.2015 um 01:13 schrieb Gustavo Silva: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If this goes through, please let me know by the end of the week and >>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>> assign my share of tasks to the team and will take care of that >>>>>>>> asap. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In my opinion, it is a +1 for this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2015-02-04 23:08 GMT+00:00 Silver Lion <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey there folks! >>>>>>>>> I've been asked by wxl and phillw to put together a draft for >>>>>>>>> what's >>>>>>>>> needed in my personal opinion to prepare a proper Public-Relations >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> of >>>> >>>>> Lubuntu. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First of all: in Public-Relations it's crucial to be “the first” on >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> market. Meaning: The earlier we start putting our announcement >>>>>>>>> together >>>>>>>>> the sooner we're on the screens of online media and other >>>>>>>>> interested >>>>>>>>> parties like LoCos. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's why we should start very early in the process to gather >>>>>>>>> informations etc. >>>>>>>>> Because the earlier we start, the less we've got to do on release >>>>>>>>> day... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've prepared a list and divided it in 5 chapters. In each >>>>>>>>> “chapter” >>>>>>>>> I've written some questions to give you in overview what might be >>>>>>>>> interesting and necessary for me to prepare the statement at the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> end. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ############################################################ >>>> ######### >>>> >>>>> 1. Feature – Definition – Freeze >>>>>>>>> (a) What's going to be new in the upcoming release? >>>>>>>>> (b) What kind of updates are we doing? >>>>>>>>> (c) Are we changing anything special? (for example: change of the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DE → >>>> >>>>> LXQt?) >>>>>>>>> (d) Are we planning anything special like a contest for wallpapers >>>>>>>>> etc.? >>>>>>>>> (e) What will be our main goal for this release? >>>>>>>>> 2. Feature-Freeze >>>>>>>>> (a) “Half-Time”-Report: How are things going? Anything unexpected >>>>>>>>> during >>>>>>>>> the latest period? >>>>>>>>> (b) The Updates we planned to include: Are they all going to come? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If >>>> >>>>> not → Why not?! >>>>>>>>> 3. Final Beta Freeze (1 Month PRIOR to Release Day!!!) >>>>>>>>> (a) Statement by Release-Manager & Head of Dev: Did everything go >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> expected? >>>>>>>>> (b) Did we have to skip any planned things from #1? >>>>>>>>> (c) What's the latest “news” about the release? >>>>>>>>> (d) What can users expect from this release we're talking about? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. One Week before Release >>>>>>>>> (a) Prepare wiki-page for online and offline press-statement¹ >>>>>>>>> (b) copy prepared announcement into wiki-area (which need to be >>>>>>>>> prepared >>>>>>>>> by wiki team!) >>>>>>>>> (c) upload PDF for LoCos and other interested parties to download >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. At Release Day >>>>>>>>> (a) Let prepared wiki-page (from task 4a) go “live” >>>>>>>>> (b) link to it via social media (Twitter, Facebook Page, Facebook >>>>>>>>> Group, >>>>>>>>> G+ Community) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ############################################################ >>>> ########### >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please let me know if anything else is needed your you've got any >>>>>>>>> further questions on that subject. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Silver! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins >>>>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins >>>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >>> >>> >> >> >> -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
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