techie+politics == deadly combo !!!!!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hari
Kurup
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: lug_: OT: Costliest Man-Made Tragedy


You guys, is LUG turning into Ekimeeza?

K.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
Tinka
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: lug_: OT: Costliest Man-Made Tragedy

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You went far enough...:)

While this holds truth, just because someone never took the time to
quantify, or at least, guesstimate the effect of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki
bombings had on the world, or even the effect the outbreak of SARS had
in
that and other regions, effects of such on tourism, flights, work
e.t.c.,
doesn't mean that they could have been any less than the effects of
9/11.

In Hong Kong, people don't even touch public escalator or stair rails
anymore, people don't shake hands, people hardly go to the hospitals as
medical staff could be infected with SARS. Can you quantify the effect
of
that on Hong Kong, much less, the global economy?

The problem here seems to be, that while Americans are valid to take
more
pride and precedence on their own affairs and problems, doesn't mean we
should join them with blind eyes. As spectators, I believe we have the
bird's eye view of what we think the most disastrous man-made caualties
are.

Look at aircraft; millions of lives have been lost since the inception
of
powered, controlled and sustained flight. More than 60% of the aircraft
in
today's skies are manufactured in the USA, others in other parts of
Europe.
Can you buy a single person's life for even $30 billion. Boeing, Airbus,
Fokker, Jetstream, BAE, Gulfstream, Dassault, Cessna, CFM, Snecma, Rolls
Royce, Pratt & Whitney e.t.c. are all man-made aviation companies
building
man-made aviation technology that causes man-made aviation death. If one
person isn't even worth $30 billion, how about the millions that have
died
from airplane accidents (notwithstanding, the fact that a
trans-continental
jet aircraft is anywhere between $80 million and $200 million, a piece)?
And
then man still has some balance left in the kitty, to take manned space
ships to Mars in a decade.

The bombings in Kenya and Tanzania claimed thousands of lives, and had
far
worse rippling effects (new US embassy built in Uganda and the region,
imposing higher security, less accessible US visas and associated
effects on
Ugandans wishing to travel, e.t.c). But just because these effects
aren't
quanitfiable, doesn't mean they don't have a (long-term) financial
effect on
the whole world.

I hope we are not losing the plot :).

> 
> 
> Quoting Kabagambe Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:20:44AM +0300, Mark Tinka wrote:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> It is simple. These are American lives we are talking about, not
>>>> simple Japanese people. Over a million Vietnamese died in the
>>>> Vietnam war - besides Vietnam being carpet bombed for I do not
>>>> know how many years... but again it was cheaper.
>>>> 
>>>> T.
>>> 
>>> Over a million you say... And, ummh, 9/11 was how many... Over 300
>>> confirmed and another 4,000 or so missing.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>>> locations, ecnomically, socially, and in health.
>>>> 
>>>> How can that be quanitified, in billions, if not gazillions?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>> 
>> Firstly, Americans treasure their blood more that most nationalities
>> I know.Whenever an american is wounded or killed in the middle east
>> or some other conflict area, it is sure to make the news, that means
>> CNN->BBC->Reuters-(spill over effect)->New Vision->Your desk. So
>> this, to Americans,is personal. The reason why that attack was the
>> costliest is because of the spill-over effects to the rest of the
>> world.Besides causing a financial crisis in the US that spilled over
>> to Japan, Europe and england,resulting in massive losses in
>> stocks and bonds, it has led to countries shifting their priorities
>> from development to fighting terrorism.This is
>> very expensive .This is an ongoing fight as Rumsdel will tell
>> you,but that means that the economy of Kenya which depends on
>> tourism will have to go into noise dive, countries that used to
>> enjoy excellent trading cooperations with the US are force to address
>> conditions that the US imposes on them before trade agreements can be
>> made.The middle east flared into allout war, with
>> sides being aligned pro- and anti- war on terrorism.i stop here.
>> - ken
>> (not a politician)
>> 
>> 
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