Guys Talking of poverty, I had a very eye opening lecture while on a visit to the Robben Islands in Cape town recently. Our guide, a former Robben Islands inmate gave us details of how poverty was used as a weapon to suppress the black brothers down there. The effect of 400 years of a deliberate poverty promotion policy are not about to be washed away soon. Seems to explain the rampant crime in that place.
I am meant to understand that Mandela inherited a government with a debt of upto 400bn dollars imagine !!!! So Joseph in a way I agree with you. Poverty is a very serious man made strategy. Wire > The costliest man-made tragedy is poverty...how many have died from > Malaria ONLY....the AK-47 problems stem from, yes, poverty. > > A correlation has been found between a country's standard of living and > its propensity to engage in war(s) (okay, America is different because > of the cow boys). > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: lug_: OT: Costliest Man-Made Tragedy > > > > My take on this is that perhaps the costliest man-made tragedy of all > time was the invention of the AK-47 > > ........................................................................ > ................ > > Simon S. Kaggwa > > Network Administrator(Routing / E. Mgt Systems) > > MTN Uganda Ltd > > Tel: +25677212622; Fax: +25678212288 > > ........................................................................ > ................ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Tinka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: lug_: OT: Costliest Man-Made Tragedy > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> You went far enough...:) > > While this holds truth, just because someone never took the time to > > quantify, or at least, guesstimate the effect of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki > > bombings had on the world, or even the effect the outbreak of SARS had > in > > that and other regions, effects of such on tourism, flights, work > e.t.c., > > doesn't mean that they could have been any less than the effects of > 9/11. > > In Hong Kong, people don't even touch public escalator or stair rails > > anymore, people don't shake hands, people hardly go to the hospitals as > > medical staff could be infected with SARS. Can you quantify the effect > of > > that on Hong Kong, much less, the global economy? > > The problem here seems to be, that while Americans are valid to take > more > > pride and precedence on their own affairs and problems, doesn't mean we > > should join them with blind eyes. As spectators, I believe we have the > > bird's eye view of what we think the most disastrous man-made caualties > are. > > Look at aircraft; millions of lives have been lost since the inception > of > > powered, controlled and sustained flight. More than 60% of the aircraft > in > > today's skies are manufactured in the USA, others in other parts of > Europe. > > Can you buy a single person's life for even $30 billion. Boeing, Airbus, > > Fokker, Jetstream, BAE, Gulfstream, Dassault, Cessna, CFM, Snecma, Rolls > > Royce, Pratt & Whitney e.t.c. are all man-made aviation companies > building > > man-made aviation technology that causes man-made aviation death. If one > > person isn't even worth $30 billion, how about the millions that have > died > > from airplane accidents (notwithstanding, the fact that a > trans-continental > > jet aircraft is anywhere between $80 million and $200 million, a piece)? > And > > then man still has some balance left in the kitty, to take manned space > > ships to Mars in a decade. > > The bombings in Kenya and Tanzania claimed thousands of lives, and had > far > > worse rippling effects (new US embassy built in Uganda and the region, > > imposing higher security, less accessible US visas and associated > effects on > > Ugandans wishing to travel, e.t.c). But just because these effects > aren't > > quanitfiable, doesn't mean they don't have a (long-term) financial > effect on > > the whole world. > > I hope we are not losing the plot :). > >> > >> > >> Quoting Kabagambe Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:20:44AM +0300, Mark Tinka wrote: > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>>> It is simple. These are American lives we are talking about, not > >>>>> simple Japanese people. Over a million Vietnamese died in the > >>>>> Vietnam war - besides Vietnam being carpet bombed for I do not > >>>>> know how many years... but again it was cheaper. > >>>>> > >>>>> T. > >>>> > >>>> Over a million you say... And, ummh, 9/11 was how many... Over 300 > >>>> confirmed and another 4,000 or so missing. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----Original Message Follows---- > >>>>> locations, ecnomically, socially, and in health. > >>>>> > >>>>> How can that be quanitified, in billions, if not gazillions? > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>> > >>> Firstly, Americans treasure their blood more that most nationalities > >>> I know.Whenever an american is wounded or killed in the middle east > >>> or some other conflict area, it is sure to make the news, that means > >>> CNN->BBC->Reuters-(spill over effect)->New Vision->Your desk. So > >>> this, to Americans,is personal. The reason why that attack was the > >>> costliest is because of the spill-over effects to the rest of the > >>> world.Besides causing a financial crisis in the US that spilled over > >>> to Japan, Europe and england,resulting in massive losses in > >>> stocks and bonds, it has led to countries shifting their priorities > >>> from development to fighting terrorism.This is > >>> very expensive .This is an ongoing fight as Rumsdel will tell > >>> you,but that means that the economy of Kenya which depends on > >>> tourism will have to go into noise dive, countries that used to > >>> enjoy excellent trading cooperations with the US are force to address > >>> conditions that the US imposes on them before trade agreements can be > >>> made.The middle east flared into allout war, with > >>> sides being aligned pro- and anti- war on terrorism.i stop here. > >>> - ken > >>> (not a politician) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------- > >>> This service is hosted on the Infocom network > >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------- > >> This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------- > >> This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug > > Regards, > > Mark Tinka > > Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > This service is hosted on the Infocom network > > http://www.infocom.co.ug --------------------------------------------- This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
