Hi Chris,

If the Gnome or KDE power is too much for your hardware, there is also an 
ubuntu version called xubuntu that has a more light-weight windows manager.

http://xubuntu.com/


-- 
rgds,

Reinier Battenberg
Director
Mountbatten Ltd.
+256 758 801 749
www.mountbatten.net




On Wednesday 05 May 2010 12:55:49 Chris R. Kasangaki wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> 
> Last night I got hold of a copy of Lucid Lynx from Tracy at EACOSS.
> However, I was terribly dissappointed because it could not run on my
> hardware. It reminded me of our Redmond friends where you have to
> upgrade hardware every time you upgrade your OS. I suppose, lucid is
> then a good alternative to Vista or 7!!
> 
> Incidentally, this is not the case with my favourite Debian. I have
> always managed to install new Debian versions on older hardware; never
> needing to upgrade with the upgrade. I was tempted to ask myself if
> Ubuntu is copying some of the bad habits of our neighbours!!!
> 
> That said I still want to give it a test run and discover what the hype
> is all about. In the meantime I still sing the praises of Debian lenny,
> for like Guiness, it is filled with goodness to the core.
> 
> Ciao
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 11:27 +0300, andrew latimer bwogi wrote:
> > THANKS jANOSCH
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 11:09 +0300, [email protected] wrote:
> > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to
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> > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >    1. Re: Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 (Janosch Maier)
> > >    2. Re: Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 (Janosch Maier)
> > >    3. Bloomberg: Adobe Complained to Feds (Sanga Collins)
> > >    4. [OT]Bill gates 1999 vs Steve jobs 2010 (Sanga Collins)
> > >    5. Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 12 (andrew latimer bwogi)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 13:35:57 +0300
> > > From: Janosch Maier <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Hi Bwogi,
> > >
> > > On 03.05.2010 17:35, andrew latimer bwogi wrote:
> > > > I have one issue though! i have a number of applications i want to
> > > > throw and compile in the /opt directory but i cant log on as root via
> > > > #su root
> > > > then i enter the password and wala, like on other systems. Please
> > > > Advise.
> > >
> > > You can without setting a root password get a root shell (only when you
> > > are in the admin group) with the command: su -s
> > > Enter your user password and it is there.
> > >
> > > Regards Janosch
> > >
> > > > You can without setting a root password get a root shell (only when
> > > > you are in the admin group) with the command: su -s
> > >
> > > Sorry, i meant sudo -s
> > >
> > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to
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> > > >
> > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > >    1. Re: Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 (Peter Kyoma)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >-
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:39:58 +0300
> > > > From: Peter Kyoma <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6
> > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > >         <[email protected]>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > *Sudo su -    (Note hyphen at the end)*
> > > >
> > > > That allows you to get to the root prompt minus a root password(you
> > > > have to supply yours as is normally the case with sudo) and avoid the
> > > > constant *sudo this* and* sudo that* for each command.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Peter.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Reinier Battenberg <
> > > >
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > You can
> > > > >
> > > > > sudo passwd root
> > > > >
> > > > > and then root has a password.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or you can just sudo all your commands. (which is the preferable
> > > > > way)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > rgds,
> > > > >
> > > > > Reinier Battenberg
> > > > > Director
> > > > > Mountbatten Ltd.
> > > > > +256 758 801 749
> > > > > www.mountbatten.net
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday 03 May 2010 17:35:30 andrew latimer bwogi wrote:
> > > > > > Guys, i am flying with the lucid version of Ubuntu. I haven't
> > > > > > been a Debian person but...
> > > > > > now that i am running office 2007 seamlessly, two virtual
> > > > > > machines of Windows XP and Suse Linux enterprise server(SLES 11)
> > > > > > on my Athlon II (read core2duo for the intel guys), the windows
> > > > > > version of Sam Spade (interesting tool) also working on this
> > > > > > beautiful (wobbling windows and 3d revolving gnome desktop plus
> > > > > > plus... ) system. i am officially 'getting' converted from an
> > > > > > obsession of Suse to Debian like Linux ops, most especially
> > > > > > Ubuntu.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris Kasangaki must be enjoying this... Zzzzz. Seriously, these
> > > > > > guys are serious.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you believe that i can even open my Microsoft HTML HELP
> > > > > > executable books (O'Reilly and other publishers) on this system
> > > > > > without a hassle!!! Guys...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have one issue though! i have a number of applications i want
> > > > > > to throw and compile in the /opt directory but i cant log on as
> > > > > > root via #su root
> > > > > > then i enter the password and wala, like on other systems. Please
> > > > > > Advise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bwogi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 14:34 +0300, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to
> > > > > > >     [email protected]
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >     http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug
> > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > > > > >     [email protected]
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
> > > > > > > specific than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Today's Topics:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    1. OT: PSTN (POTS) card (joseph mpora)
> > > > > > >    2. Re: Ubuntu Release Party (Kyle Spencer)
> > > > > > >    3. Re: Guzzlers' Pub not found (Kyle Spencer)
> > > > > > >    4. Re: Guzzlers' Pub not found (John Kibuuka)
> > > > > > >    5. Re: Adobe responds to steve[OT] (Christopher Nambale)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >-------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 12:19:09 +0300
> > > > > > > From: joseph mpora <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: [LUG] OT: PSTN (POTS) card
> > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > <[email protected]
> > > > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone with PCI PSTN cards in stock? Am interested in an
> > > > > > > analogue FXO card. Please contact me offlist.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joseph Mpora
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Message: 2
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 12:27:10 +0300
> > > > > > > From: Kyle Spencer <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Ubuntu Release Party
> > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Message-ID: <1272878830.6871.854.ca...@it-manager>
> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steen,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It was great to see you.  I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the
> > > > > > > event.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you have any questions about Ubuntu/Linux, don't hesitate to
> > > > > > > ask!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kyle Spencer,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 09:47 +0300, Steen Andersen wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Simon and Kyle.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for a great event.
> > > > > > > > Being new in Kampala it was really nice to meet so many
> > > > > > > > dedicated people.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I went home and installed Luci on my laptop the same evening.
> > > > > > > > It took approximately 30 minutes, and I was up and running.
> > > > > > > > GREAT.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thursday I had spend 10 hours upgrading from Vista to 7 on
> > > > > > > > the same computer! (Then 7 updates all my existing
> > > > > > > > applications, which also takes quite some time).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anybody know if there is a serious open source
> > > > > > > > alternative to AutoCad for Ubuntu?
> > > > > > > > (I have a friend who is an architect who wants to run all his
> > > > > > > > stuff with Open Source)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Steen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Message: 3
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 12:28:34 +0300
> > > > > > > From: Kyle Spencer <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Guzzlers' Pub not found
> > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Message-ID: <1272878914.6871.857.ca...@it-manager>
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> > > > > > > Janosch,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glad to hear you got it working!  Thanks for all your help at
> > > > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > event.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > -Kyle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 11:57 +0300, Janosch Maier wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 01.05.2010 00:37, Simon Vass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Sorry I had hoped the OpenStreetMap links Kyle posted would
> > > > >
> > > > > suffice,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > plus the reference to it being next door to UCC's new head
> > > > >
> > > > > quarters.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > I found it without any problems, even though I have not been
> > > > > > > > in this area of Kampala before.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you (especially Simon and Kyle) very much for the great
> > > > > > > > release party. Hope to see you guys again soon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As my upgrade from 9.10 did not work (I only got a kernel
> > > > > > > > panic afterwards) I am running a fresh Lucid now. It is great
> > > > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > Janosch
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Message: 4
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:30:35 +0300
> > > > > > > From: John Kibuuka <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Guzzlers' Pub not found
> > > > > > > To: [email protected], Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > <[email protected]
> > > > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It was a great party & the questions... ooh there were so many.
> > > > > > > We
> > > > >
> > > > > never
> > > > >
> > > > > > > quite exhausted all of them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would suggest we could arrange to just sit there and ask
> > > > > > > random linux questions... kill off most anti-open source fears
> > > > > > > that users here have.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The turnout was great. I never saw such a number of girls
> > > > > > > turning out
> > > > >
> > > > > at
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the LUG before, not mentioning the Sir Tim event. I couldn't
> > > > > > > help
> > > > >
> > > > > smiling
> > > > >
> > > > > > > at the thought of picking up a linux-geek-chick ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Great party guys! Keep it up!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > Janosch,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glad to hear you got it working!  Thanks for all your help at
> > > > > > > > the event.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Kyle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 11:57 +0300, Janosch Maier wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 01.05.2010 00:37, Simon Vass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry I had hoped the OpenStreetMap links Kyle posted
> > > > > > > > > > would suffice,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > plus the reference to it being next door to UCC's new head
> > > > > > > > quarters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I found it without any problems, even though I have not
> > > > > > > > > been in
> > > > >
> > > > > this
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > area of Kampala before.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you (especially Simon and Kyle) very much for the
> > > > > > > > > great
> > > > >
> > > > > release
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > party. Hope to see you guys again soon.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As my upgrade from 9.10 did not work (I only got a kernel
> > > > > > > > > panic afterwards) I am running a fresh Lucid now. It is
> > > > > > > > > great ;-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > Janosch
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> > > > > > > Message: 5
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 04:34:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > > > From: Christopher Nambale <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT]
> > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I beg to disagree. Indeed, I think this debate is healthy in a
> > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While SJhas a rightdo whatever he wants to make more money, it
> > > > > > > is hypocritical of him to support openness only when it suits
> > > > > > > him. His defense on why they don't use flash on their products
> > > > > > > should have stuck to the technical details, he shouldn't have
> > > > > > > made any reference to openness to quote "Though the operating
> > > > > > > system for the iPhone, iPod and iPad is proprietary, we
> > > > > > > strongly believe that all standards pertaining
> > > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the web should be open."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perhaps more interesting was his admission thatclosedsystems
> > > > > > > leaveyou
> > > > >
> > > > > at
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the mercy of theowner:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "If developers grow dependent on third party development
> > > > > > > libraries and tools, they can only take advantage of platform
> > > > > > > enhancements if and
> > > > >
> > > > > when
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the third party chooses to adopt the new features. We cannot be
> > > > > > > at the mercy of a third party deciding if and when they will
> > > > > > > make our enhancements available to our developers."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Mr SJ if you are so averse to being at the mercy of
> > > > > > > others what about the people who buy your products whose use
> > > > > > > ofthese productsis restricted to only the features you choose
> > > > > > > to support at that time, how differentis this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If it makes technical and business sense for them to
> > > > > > > rejectFlash on
> > > > >
> > > > > their
> > > > >
> > > > > > > products so be it, let him turn away those clients who need
> > > > > > > Flash for now, what he shouldn't do is to try to justify it in
> > > > > > > the court of
> > > > >
> > > > > public
> > > > >
> > > > > > > opinion. Perhaps to better understand his motivation in this
> > > > > > > debate please read:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iHqf7jhi51QJ:t
> > > > >ech.fo
> > > > >
> > > > > rtune.cnn.com/2010/02/19/why-is-steve-jobs-flash-obsessed/+steve+jo
> > > > >bs+flas
> > > > >
> > > > > > >h&cd=5&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CN
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT]
> > > > > > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 12:56 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh my! That Ass Technica writer fails to win by volume! SJ will
> > > > >
> > > > > champion
> > > > >
> > > > > > > what best brings cash into his account. If that promotes the
> > > > > > > free/open religion, then that is purely accidental even if it's
> > > > > > > good. This guy
> > > > >
> > > > > gets
> > > > >
> > > > > > > it:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/04/29/jobs_on_flash/#c
> > > > >_75
> > > > >
> > > > > > >2789
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On May 02, 2010, at 20:02, Christopher Nambale wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And FSF's 'non of the above' recommendation.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/pot-meet-kettle-a-respons
> > > > >e-to-s
> > > > >
> > > > > > >teve-jobs-letter-on-flash.ars
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CN
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Richard Zulu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Richard Zulu <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT]
> > > > > > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 1:27 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10093314.stm
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