Hi Chris, whenever you get stuck, can you send us details on what is happening, so we might be able to help you?
-- rgds, Reinier Battenberg Director Mountbatten Ltd. +256 758 801 749 www.mountbatten.net On Thursday 06 May 2010 12:21:02 Chris R. Kasangaki wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I am happy for you. I tried a re-install again last evening and still no > luck. I will have have another go again this evening. > > Cheers > > > Chris > > On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 10:04 +0300, Richard Okuti wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Solved, this was exciting, was trying to reinstall office all night > > and then I tried something with fonts after Simon Vass advised that > > the problem may be related to the font.... > > > > I discovered that some fonts make the display (of menus) un-viewable > > otherwise I changed the application fonts and wala the sun was shining > > again... > > > > Just so that you note. > > > > On 5 May 2010 13:01, Richard Okuti <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > I am having a tricky problem on my machine just completed the > > upgrade and the menu's are showing boxes for some areas.... Eg > > Open, file etc? > > > > Kinda stuck! > > > > > > > > On 5 May 2010 12:55, Chris R. Kasangaki <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > Last night I got hold of a copy of Lucid Lynx from > > Tracy at EACOSS. > > However, I was terribly dissappointed because it could > > not run on my > > hardware. It reminded me of our Redmond friends where > > you have to > > upgrade hardware every time you upgrade your OS. I > > suppose, lucid is > > then a good alternative to Vista or 7!! > > > > Incidentally, this is not the case with my favourite > > Debian. I have > > always managed to install new Debian versions on older > > hardware; never > > needing to upgrade with the upgrade. I was tempted to > > ask myself if > > Ubuntu is copying some of the bad habits of our > > neighbours!!! > > > > That said I still want to give it a test run and > > discover what the hype > > is all about. In the meantime I still sing the praises > > of Debian lenny, > > for like Guiness, it is filled with goodness to the > > core. > > > > Ciao > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 11:27 +0300, andrew latimer > > > > bwogi wrote: > > > THANKS jANOSCH > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 11:09 +0300, > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide > > > > Web, visit > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > > > > 'help' to > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > > > > is more specific > > > > > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > 1. Re: Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 (Janosch > > > > Maier) > > > > > > 2. Re: Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 (Janosch > > > > Maier) > > > > > > 3. Bloomberg: Adobe Complained to Feds (Sanga > > > > Collins) > > > > > > 4. [OT]Bill gates 1999 vs Steve jobs 2010 > > > > (Sanga Collins) > > > > > > 5. Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 12 (andrew > > > > latimer bwogi) > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 13:35:57 +0300 > > > > From: Janosch Maier <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > Hi Bwogi, > > > > > > > > On 03.05.2010 17:35, andrew latimer bwogi wrote: > > > > > I have one issue though! i have a number of > > > > applications i want to throw > > > > > > > and compile in the /opt directory but i cant log > > > > on as root via > > > > > > > #su root > > > > > then i enter the password and wala, like on > > > > other systems. Please > > > > > > > Advise. > > > > > > > > You can without setting a root password get a root > > > > shell (only when you > > > > > > are in the admin group) with the command: su -s > > > > Enter your user password and it is there. > > > > > > > > Regards Janosch > > > > -- > > > > Janosch Maier <[email protected]> -- > > > > http://phynformatik.de > > > > > > This E-Mais is signed via GnuPG > > > > <http://gnupg.org/>. My public key: > > > > 0xEB21B1DE > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > Name: signature.asc > > > > Type: application/pgp-signature > > > > Size: 262 bytes > > > > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > > > > Url : > > > > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20100504/2e3eb18b/signatur > >e.pgp > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 13:47:03 +0300 > > > > From: Janosch Maier <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > On 04.05.2010 13:35, Janosch Maier wrote: > > > > > You can without setting a root password get a > > > > root shell (only when you > > > > > > > are in the admin group) with the command: su -s > > > > > > > > Sorry, i meant sudo -s > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janosch Maier <[email protected]> -- > > > > http://phynformatik.de > > > > > > This E-Mais is signed via GnuPG > > > > <http://gnupg.org/>. My public key: > > > > 0xEB21B1DE > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > Name: signature.asc > > > > Type: application/pgp-signature > > > > Size: 262 bytes > > > > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > > > > Url : > > > > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20100504/c3bd72da/signatur > >e.pgp > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 20:21:47 -0400 > > > > From: Sanga Collins <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [LUG] Bloomberg: Adobe Complained to Feds > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > Message-ID: > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" > > > > > > > > Bloomberg: > > > > > > > > U.S. antitrust enforcers are considering an > > > > investigation of Apple > > > > > > Inc. following a complaint from Adobe Systems > > > > Inc., according to > > > > > > people familiar with the matter. > > > > > > > > Adobe says Apple is stifling competition by > > > > barring developers from > > > > > > using Adobe’s products to create applications for > > > > iPhones and > > > > > > iPads, said the people who spoke on condition of > > > > anonymity because > > > > > > they aren’t authorized to discuss the case. > > > > > > > > Surprise, surprise. > > > > > > > > ★ > > > > > > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=asdIuYfRt_7U > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: > > > > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20100504/c683b279/attachme > >nt.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 20:24:23 -0400 > > > > From: Sanga Collins <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [LUG] [OT]Bill gates 1999 vs Steve jobs > > > > 2010 > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > Message-ID: > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" > > > > > > > > Bill Gates: > > > > > > > > “Microsoft has a lot of different tablet projects > > > > that > > > > > > we’re pursuing. We think that work with the pen > > > > that Microsoft > > > > > > pioneered will become a mainstream for students. > > > > It can give you a > > > > > > device that you can not only read, but also create > > > > documents at the > > > > > > same time.” > > > > > > > > Steve Jobs: > > > > > > > > “If you see a stylus, they blew it.” > > > > > > > > ★ > > > > > > http://www.cultofmac.com/bill-gates-pen-based-tablets-will-beat-the-ipad- > >at-least-with-students/41614 > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: > > > > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20100504/93abd649/attachme > >nt.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > > Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 11:08:11 +0300 > > > > From: andrew latimer bwogi > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 12 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Message-ID: <1273046891.2824.0.ca...@bwogi-laptop> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > > > > > Thanks Peter. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 10:40 +0300, > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide > > > > Web, visit > > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or > > > > body 'help' to > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so > > > > it is more specific > > > > > > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Re: Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 6 (Peter > > > > Kyoma) > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:39:58 +0300 > > > > > From: Peter Kyoma <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue > > > > 6 > > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > > *Sudo su - (Note hyphen at the end)* > > > > > > > > > > That allows you to get to the root prompt minus > > > > a root password(you have to > > > > > > > supply yours as is normally the case with sudo) > > > > and avoid the constant *sudo > > > > > > > this* and* sudo that* for each command. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Reinier > > > > Battenberg < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You can > > > > > > > > > > > > sudo passwd root > > > > > > > > > > > > and then root has a password. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or you can just sudo all your commands. (which > > > > is the preferable way) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > rgds, > > > > > > > > > > > > Reinier Battenberg > > > > > > Director > > > > > > Mountbatten Ltd. > > > > > > +256 758 801 749 > > > > > > www.mountbatten.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 03 May 2010 17:35:30 andrew latimer > > > > bwogi wrote: > > > > > > > Guys, i am flying with the lucid version of > > > > Ubuntu. I haven't been a > > > > > > > > > Debian person but... > > > > > > > now that i am running office 2007 > > > > seamlessly, two virtual machines of > > > > > > > > > Windows XP and Suse Linux enterprise > > > > server(SLES 11) on my Athlon II > > > > > > > > > (read core2duo for the intel guys), the > > > > windows version of Sam Spade > > > > > > > > > (interesting tool) also working on this > > > > beautiful (wobbling windows and > > > > > > > > > 3d revolving gnome desktop plus plus... ) > > > > system. i am officially > > > > > > > > > 'getting' converted from an obsession of > > > > Suse to Debian like Linux ops, > > > > > > > > > most especially Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Kasangaki must be enjoying this... > > > > Zzzzz. Seriously, these guys > > > > > > > > > are serious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you believe that i can even open my > > > > Microsoft HTML HELP executable > > > > > > > > > books (O'Reilly and other publishers) on > > > > this system without a hassle!!! > > > > > > > > > Guys... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have one issue though! i have a number of > > > > applications i want to throw > > > > > > > > > and compile in the /opt directory but i cant > > > > log on as root via > > > > > > > > > #su root > > > > > > > then i enter the password and wala, like on > > > > other systems. Please > > > > > > > > > Advise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bwogi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 14:34 +0300, > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World > > > > Wide Web, visit > > > > > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject > > > > or body 'help' to > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject > > > > line so it is more specific > > > > > > > > > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. OT: PSTN (POTS) card (joseph mpora) > > > > > > > > 2. Re: Ubuntu Release Party (Kyle > > > > Spencer) > > > > > > > > > > 3. Re: Guzzlers' Pub not found (Kyle > > > > Spencer) > > > > > > > > > > 4. Re: Guzzlers' Pub not found (John > > > > Kibuuka) > > > > > > > > > > 5. Re: Adobe responds to steve[OT] > > > > (Christopher Nambale) > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 12:19:09 +0300 > > > > > > > > From: joseph mpora <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Subject: [LUG] OT: PSTN (POTS) card > > > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > > > > > Anyone with PCI PSTN cards in stock? Am > > > > interested in an analogue FXO > > > > > > > > > > card. Please contact me offlist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Mpora > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 12:27:10 +0300 > > > > > > > > From: Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Ubuntu Release Party > > > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > <1272878830.6871.854.ca...@it-manager> > > > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steen, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was great to see you. I'm glad to hear > > > > that you enjoyed the event. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions about > > > > Ubuntu/Linux, don't hesitate to ask! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kyle Spencer, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 09:47 +0300, Steen > > > > Andersen wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon and Kyle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for a great event. > > > > > > > > > Being new in Kampala it was really nice > > > > to meet so many dedicated > > > > > > > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I went home and installed Luci on my > > > > laptop the same evening. It took > > > > > > > > > > > approximately 30 minutes, and I was up > > > > and running. GREAT. > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday I had spend 10 hours upgrading > > > > from Vista to 7 on the same > > > > > > > > > > > computer! (Then 7 updates all my > > > > existing applications, which also > > > > > > > > > > > takes quite some time). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody know if there is a serious > > > > open source alternative to > > > > > > > > > > > AutoCad for Ubuntu? > > > > > > > > > (I have a friend who is an architect who > > > > wants to run all his stuff > > > > > > > > > > > with Open Source) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM > > > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by > > > > whoever posted them > > > > > > > > (including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attachments if any). The List's Host is > > > > not responsible for them in > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 12:28:34 +0300 > > > > > > > > From: Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Guzzlers' Pub not found > > > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > <1272878914.6871.857.ca...@it-manager> > > > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janosch, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear you got it working! Thanks > > > > for all your help at the > > > > > > > > event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Kyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 11:57 +0300, Janosch > > > > Maier wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 01.05.2010 00:37, Simon Vass wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry I had hoped the OpenStreetMap > > > > links Kyle posted would > > > > > > > > suffice, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plus the reference to it being next > > > > door to UCC's new head > > > > > > > > quarters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found it without any problems, even > > > > though I have not been in this > > > > > > > > > > > area of Kampala before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you (especially Simon and Kyle) > > > > very much for the great release > > > > > > > > > > > party. Hope to see you guys again soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As my upgrade from 9.10 did not work (I > > > > only got a kernel panic > > > > > > > > > > > afterwards) I am running a fresh Lucid > > > > now. It is great ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Janosch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM > > > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by > > > > whoever posted them > > > > > > > > (including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attachments if any). The List's Host is > > > > not responsible for them in > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:30:35 +0300 > > > > > > > > From: John Kibuuka <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Guzzlers' Pub not found > > > > > > > > To: [email protected], Linux Users Group > > > > Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > > It was a great party & the questions... > > > > ooh there were so many. We > > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite exhausted all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest we could arrange to just > > > > sit there and ask random linux > > > > > > > > > > questions... kill off most anti-open > > > > source fears that users here have. > > > > > > > > > > The turnout was great. I never saw such a > > > > number of girls turning out > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the LUG before, not mentioning the Sir Tim > > > > event. I couldn't help > > > > > > > > smiling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the thought of picking up a > > > > linux-geek-chick ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Great party guys! Keep it up! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Kyle > > > > Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Janosch, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear you got it working! Thanks > > > > for all your help at the > > > > > > > > > > > event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Kyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 11:57 +0300, > > > > Janosch Maier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 01.05.2010 00:37, Simon Vass wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry I had hoped the OpenStreetMap > > > > links Kyle posted would > > > > > > > > > > > > > suffice, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plus the reference to it being next door > > > > to UCC's new head quarters. > > > > > > > > > > > > I found it without any problems, even > > > > though I have not been in > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > area of Kampala before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you (especially Simon and Kyle) > > > > very much for the great > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > party. Hope to see you guys again > > > > soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > As my upgrade from 9.10 did not work > > > > (I only got a kernel panic > > > > > > > > > > > > afterwards) I am running a fresh Lucid > > > > now. It is great ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Janosch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM > > > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned > > > > by whoever posted them > > > > > > > > > > > > (including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attachments if any). The List's Host is > > > > not responsible for them in > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM > > > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by > > > > whoever posted them > > > > > > > > (including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attachments if any). The List's Host is > > > > not responsible for them in > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > > > URL: > > > > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20100503/7062a667/attachme > > > > > > > > > >nt.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 04:34:06 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > From: Christopher Nambale > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Adobe responds to > > > > steve[OT] > > > > > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > > I beg to disagree. Indeed, I think this > > > > debate is healthy in a way. > > > > > > > > > > While SJhas a rightdo whatever he wants to > > > > make more money, it is > > > > > > > > > > hypocritical of him to support openness > > > > only when it suits him. His > > > > > > > > > > defense on why they don't use flash on > > > > their products should have stuck > > > > > > > > > > to the technical details, he shouldn't > > > > have made any reference to > > > > > > > > > > openness to quote "Though the operating > > > > system for the iPhone, iPod and > > > > > > > > > > iPad is proprietary, we strongly believe > > > > that all standards pertaining > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the web should be open." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps more interesting was his admission > > > > thatclosedsystems leaveyou > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the mercy of theowner: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If developers grow dependent on third > > > > party development libraries and > > > > > > > > > > tools, they can only take advantage of > > > > platform enhancements if and > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the third party chooses to adopt the new > > > > features. We cannot be at the > > > > > > > > > > mercy of a third party deciding if and > > > > when they will make our > > > > > > > > > > enhancements available to our developers." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mr SJ if you are so averse to being > > > > at the mercy of others what > > > > > > > > > > about the people who buy your products > > > > whose use ofthese productsis > > > > > > > > > > restricted to only the features you choose > > > > to support at that time, how > > > > > > > > > > differentis this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it makes technical and business sense > > > > for them to rejectFlash on > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > products so be it, let him turn away those > > > > clients who need Flash for > > > > > > > > > > now, what he shouldn't do is to try to > > > > justify it in the court of > > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opinion. Perhaps to better understand his > > > > motivation in this debate > > > > > > > > > > please read: > > > > > > http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iHqf7jhi51QJ:tech.fo > > > > > > > > rtune.cnn.com/2010/02/19/why-is-steve-jobs-flash-obsessed/+steve+jobs+fla > >s > > > > > > > > > >h&cd=5&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Paul Bagyenda > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > From: Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Adobe responds to > > > > steve[OT] > > > > > > > > > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 12:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my! That Ass Technica writer fails to > > > > win by volume! SJ will > > > > > > > > champion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what best brings cash into his account. If > > > > that promotes the free/open > > > > > > > > > > religion, then that is purely accidental > > > > even if it's good. This guy > > > > > > > > gets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it: > > > > > > http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/04/29/jobs_on_flash/#c_75 > > > > > > > > > >2789 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 02, 2010, at 20:02, Christopher > > > > Nambale wrote: > > > > > > > > And FSF's 'non of the above' > > > > recommendation. > > > > > > > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/pot-meet-kettle-a-response-to-s > > > > > > > > > >teve-jobs-letter-on-flash.ars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Richard Zulu > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > From: Richard Zulu <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Subject: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT] > > > > > > > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 1:27 AM > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10093314.stm > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM > > > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by > > > > whoever posted them (including > > > > > > > > > attachments if any). 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