Hi, Is CFI Ugandan owned?
T -----Original Message----- From: Noah Sematimba [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 July 2010 14:18 To: Joseph Abdi Cc: Linux Users Group Uganda Subject: Re: [LUG] The .UG issue - Wire's Perspective On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Joseph Abdi wrote: > >> I'd like an example of a domain name under .ug that the govt has >> ordered disabled. > > I already answered this ...but also you mentioned of how > radiokatwe.com was routed by ALL ISPs on orders of government ...you > think CFI would disagree with this order if it were radiokatwe.co.ug?? I saw your example and I actually do not see any reason why you think UCC would have helped you in that case. Infact if anything it would have been worse with UCC. At least with a private company I can sue them in court and get a court order requiring them to put my domain back online and they will not willfully ignore the court order unlike a government organisation which can willfully ignore it as long as they know they are covered. We all know of many cases of government agencies willfully ignoring court orders. In the case of your domains that were transferred, I must assume that the government representative was the registered administrative contact of the domains, which meant that they could ask for transfer of their domain at any time. At the same time anyone managing the ccTLD must keep the interests of the actual domain owners also balanced. Nobody would like a situation where you want to change providers or hosting company for example and they hold you hostage because your domains are in their account. Did you actually register a complaint? Was anything done about it? I do not see any reason why you think this would have been any different under UCC or another company. > > This is because it made no sense hosting in Uganda without the UXIP. > But now with the introduction of UIXP, local hosting is growing up > ..We have some companies offering good and reliable local hosting here > in Uganda but ALL because of UIXP. We too Jolis are working on a UG DC > so soon we will be offering local hosting.. Ok this is hilarious! There has been an IX in Uganda for over 7 years now so talking about "now with the introduction of UIXP" is simply too amusing :-) > >> and you want to compare the US governance to that of Uganda? > > Yes, there is a great and close comparison when it comes to ccTLDs > governance in all countries ..infact UCC would still have to listen to > ICANN.. And apart from Kenya and some authoritarian regimes like China, the ccTLDs in free democratic countries are most definitely NOT managed by the governments of the countries in question. I have been participating in ICANN since 2001 and I am very amused by the kind of authority you seem to think ICANN has. As I suggested before, take some time and actually attend some ICANN meetings. I can almost guarantee that you will leave those meetings with a profoundly different view of how much actual authority ICANN wields. > They may have failed in there management, but that doesn't mean we > can't improve in there failures ...ALSO they are atleast better than > us ..they have more competition and have registered more .ke(s) than > here ..(have better answered this on I-Network) > They also happen to have an economy that is far larger than Uganda's. So attributing the number of .ke domains to the management of the ccTLD is a fallacy. Kenya has a GDP of $30.35 Billion while Uganda has a GDP of $14.33 Billion. They more than double our GDP so obviously it is no surprise that they have far more domains under the ccTLD than we do. Noah. _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. --------------------------------------- NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see http://www.mtn.co.ug/email/Email-disclaimer.aspx _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---------------------------------------
