It is a question of compromising quality for the sake of quantity.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Emmanuel Mulo
<[email protected]>wrote:

> The students may not have interest in studying but maybe its because they
> are not getting something *interesting*.  Its like studying math for the
> sake of studying maths... For abstract thinkers that may be interesting but
> for most, they would probably find it interesting only if they see the
> applicability.
>
> We cannot wait for the whole education system to change.  Actually you can
> start changing it in small ways on your own.  For example students may be
> focused on grades but if you gave them an engaging project I daresay they
> would become more focused on the project.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/09/2010 14:40, David G M wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Indeed this is a mental issue that has to be dealt with through our
>> education system.
>> Just like Johnson said "We need to tackle to problem right away from
>> secondary and even primary!"
>> Most students read to pass and that's all.  This mentality has to be
>> uprooted for better results.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 3:15 PM, J.Mwebaze <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>    Most of our students  do not have the interest to study heard - most
>>    of them are there to get papers! I have seen
>>    students complaining about lecturers who involve them a lot and
>>    teach hard core stuff.. i for one - i was supervising students and
>>    they requested to change supervision, because i asked for a rather
>>    simple python implementation.. So even those good and interested
>>    students miss out!
>>
>>    We need to tackle to problem right away from secondary and every
>>    primary! Students are rather interested in passing than leaning!
>>
>>
>>    On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Emmanuel Mulo
>>    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>        I believe like many that the problem lies with the instruction.
>>          I can give you a concrete example.  For an entire semester at
>>        uni, the longest assignment we got for the so called Programming
>>        methodology course involved writing 20 lines of C code and
>>        mostly with scanf's and printf's for that matter.  I am sure the
>>        situation is much improved now but if that was the quality of
>>        the instruction, you couldn't expect such an instructor to
>>        challenge his/her students to contribute to OSS projects.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        On 11/09/2010 10:11, Tim Schofield wrote:
>>
>>            I agree here. I am currently mentoring some Makarere
>>            students on an
>>            open source project, and they do lack some very basic skills.
>>
>>            Tim
>>
>>
>>            On 11 September 2010 01:18, Wilson
>>            Abigaba<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>                On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Peter C.
>>                Ndikuwera<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>
>>                  wrote:
>>
>>
>>                    Can you estimate how many students were at the
>>                    event? Surely if students
>>                    were involved in OSS development they'd have
>>                    encountered the GSoC?
>>
>>
>>                I did submit an application when I was a student (4
>>                years ago) but it
>>                wasn't selected to take part...it could be the case for
>>                many of the
>>                students given the fact they haven't been exposed to
>>                these kinds of
>>                projects/code etc.
>>
>>                Another simple example, how many students do *serious*
>>                programming
>>                projects/courses at University? For BIT/Computer
>>                Science, MUK, I think
>>                the number is less than 15 per year. I for one haven't
>>                seen a final
>>                year project written in C or C++ or any at least any
>>                object oriented
>>                programming/scripting language. To me, this explains how
>> our
>>                programming skills are still wanting. We still need to
>>                sharpen our
>>                skills before we can even contribute to such (FOSS)
>>                projects and
>>                graduate to be selected for GSoC.
>>
>>                Regards,
>>                Wilson
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