+1 from me. Very important to keep in contact with the academic institutions, 
apply pressure on them to improve. 

P.

On Sep 11, 2010, at 16:49, Simon Vass wrote:

> As the old adage says those who can do. Those who can't teach. Sometimes this 
> is too often the case in University's including the UK.
> 
> Seriously though the quality of teaching does have a big part to play. I 
> would hazard a guess at how many of these lectures have programmed in 
> commercial environments. That having been said I also think students need to 
> be taught to learn for themselves. Programming takes time and contact time 
> with equipment. How many students have access to a computer from a young age 
> for any significant period of time? This will change with time but is another 
> reason why the second hand computer ban last year was so heinous in my mind.
> 
> Google I know from conversations I have had with their staff would love to 
> have more student enter the competition from Africa and E.A. Does this take 
> more work from them or us. I'd say both. Tim, I love the fact your spending 
> time mentoring students at Mak in OSS programming and this should be highly 
> commended. 
> 
> I think this is exactly one of the reason we hosted the Google+Python event 
> last month. We need to keep doing this a community, pushing our universities. 
> I for one have been promising Michael to sit down and offer him ideas on how 
> we can improve the curriculum at Makerere, I think making sure each class has 
> entrants in to the GsoC and other projects would be one.
> 
> We also clearly need to engage students before University, what's the best 
> way for us to do this? Talk to ministries about changes to the curriculum, 
> having a better engagement with students? Are programming tenants being 
> taught at O-Level and A-Level? 
> 
> We also now have the iHive which is available to students/anyone working on 
> programming projects. Can this be utilized more? After school clubs?
> 
>> And you think the kind of lecturer who uses "Teach yourself C in
>> 21 days" has a chance in hell of motivating students?
> 
> Its a start, if this is all he/she uses then clearly it's not enough. As a 
> quick start into the principles of programming it's fine. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Simon Vass 
> Technical Manager 
> E-Tech Uganda Ltd 
> 
> http://www.etech.ug 
> Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 
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> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mwirima Byaruhanga" <[email protected]>
> To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, 11 September, 2010 4:11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [LUG] Google summer of code
> 
> Paul Bagyenda wrote thus on 9/11/10 11:00 AM:
>> And you think the kind of lecturer who uses "Teach yourself C in 
>> 21 days" has a chance in hell of motivating students?
> 
> Yes and yes. One does not necessarily have to be the guru on a
> subject to motivate/lead at it.
> 
> Unrelated but somewhat similar, what did John Sculley know about
> computers when he (sort of) rescued apple ;) ?
> 
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