On 31 January 2013 17:38, Brian Ssennoga <[email protected]> wrote:

> This morning i was at DICTS, discussing RENU (www.renu.ac.ug) as part of
> ICT Director's Forum. If we still have ISPs playing cat and mouse games
> over peering, how can we possibly be dreaming of their support when it
> comes to setting up a Ugandan nREN?
>
>
you do raise a very good point. But you do realise that nRENs can run well
without an IXP! It is easier to peer at the IXP and is cheaper, but it can
happen any other way too.

And if UCC doesn't care what IPs the ISPs choose to advertise, i guess the
> idea of an nREN becomes a taller order.
>

Its not that UCC does not care. UCC got to ensure that we peer locally in
Uganda. They specify that peering is a MUST and not necessarily where to
peer, as long as all service providers peer. It is also not in the mandate
of UCC to dictate what IP addresses one peers with. That is left to the
discretion of the service provider. It depends on how the service provider
has designed their network and what IP prefixes they choose for the said
services.

nRENs do not rely on an IXP to function. an IXP would be a plus, but its
not a core for an nREN to function.


> Afterall, once it gets lit, members would essentially constitute a
> Bandwidth Consortium, and start to purchase from the open market. We
> shouldn't have to wave a cheque in their faces to get peering as a standard.
>
>
I think its more of "value of the IXP" than cheques. All service providers
need to understand and see the value of the IXP. They need to buy into it.
We have had meetings where top managers have rubbished the IXP and its
purpose. There is need for ALL service providers to buy-in into the IXP.
They wont unless their network engineer/admin shows them the cost savings
of peering at the IXP and peering with a decent link capacity.


> As it is, if traffic is on a segment it shouldn't be, we all stand to
> lose. But if NITA and UCC can't "force" some of these basics, then woe to
> this nation...
>
>
>
Hmmm... NITA/UCC "force" connections... somehow I picture Uganda voting
"YES" to the ITU meeting in Dubai. This would give GOVT control over what
they should not control; how your traffic is routed. Think China, Iran,
Dubai and the like.

-- 
Mike

Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a
million chances happen 99% of the time.
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