Kyle, I say access is licked because you (my internet conscience) told me not to mess with price. You said it will sort itself out "eventually". I hope you enjoy the quotes I have sent and will be willing to guide us leverage these resources into developmental usage.
James S. K. Makumbi Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited - Phone: 0783354036 - Mobile: 0790834364 - Website: billable.co.ug - Email: [email protected] <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> On 8 October 2016 at 16:01, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: > Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration -- > but we are on the right track as a country. > > However, you are correct to suggest that we now have a sufficiently > enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and > services :) > > On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And I am saying access is licked! >> It is done! >> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new >> investment into content. >> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that >> come with good access. >> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from this >> current "me too" model of investment/innovation >> I am sure we can get more done. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> James S. K. Makumbi >> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >> >> - Phone: 0783354036 >> - Mobile: 0790834364 >> - Website: billable.co.ug >> - Email: [email protected] >> >> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >> >> >> >> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure >>> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how. >>> >>> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if >>> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability, >>> affordability, or whatever reason). >>> >>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Kyle, >>>> >>>> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access >>>> to internet" is a panacea to all our problems. >>>> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are >>>> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked. >>>> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk >>>> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>> >>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>> >>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased >>>>> reliability. >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money. >>>>>> How does that help the average Ugandan? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>> >>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> James, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's >>>>>>> borders and upcountry markets. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower >>>>>>> infrastructure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The >>>>>>> UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this >>>>>>> infrastructure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kyle Spencer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kyle, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, >>>>>>>> what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it? >>>>>>>> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to >>>>>>>> be a white elephant. >>>>>>>> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on >>>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and >>>>>>>>> government, which owns the NBI). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to >>>>>>>>> initiatives like these. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Kyle Spencer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country >>>>>>>>> instead of for the companies selling it. >>>>>>>>> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or >>>>>>>>> refute that. >>>>>>>>> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see >>>>>>>>> a race for the bottom soon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's true Kyle. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is >>>>>>>>>> because a few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented >>>>>>>>>> to me >>>>>>>>>> by someone on behalf of zuku . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of >>>>>>>>>> bandwidth price lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see >>>>>>>>>> zuku >>>>>>>>>> planning to offer a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- >>>>>>>>>> UGX . For the home user, that's supposed to cover both Internet and >>>>>>>>>> pay tv >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply >>>>>>>>>> designed for the questionnaire. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing >>>>>>>>>>> trend in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to >>>>>>>>>>> government >>>>>>>>>>> support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That is the problem with my country! >>>>>>>>>>>> We do absolutely nothing together. >>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we >>>>>>>>>>>> were first world, we would probably even have our own standards!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled >>>>>>>>>>>> and merged. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>>>>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>>>>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>>>>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>>>>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth >>>>>>>>>>>>> rates? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from My Cellphone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lu >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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