Dear Timothy, now that I come to think of it, I had quite a difficult week... But usually I don't bother too much about those things, makes life more complicated than it is :-)
Stephan Am 7 Dec 2003 um 12:27 hat Timothy Motz geschrieben: > Vance, > I've been on the lute list serve for only a few months, and have been > surprised by the vituperative nature of some of the messages that have > been posted. I've been on the verge of taking myself off the list > several times, because I find much of the heated discussion pointless > and a waste of bandwidth. > > I have noticed that there is an ebb and flow to the flame wars that > coincides with the full moon. We are just reaching a full moon right > now and are also cresting on another flame war. If you watch the > postings over the next month, I think you will find that in 21-28 days > we are in the middle of another spate of heated emails. About a year > ago the local newspaper did a study of crime statistics and > interviewed police, and came to the conclusion that although the > actual number of crimes rose only slightly during the full moon, the > nature of the crimes changed, with the crimes being of a much more > aggravated nature. > The worst period was in the week before the actual full moon. > During > that week people tend to react more strongly to perceived offenses > than they might otherwise. Perhaps some of those writing heated > emails should check the moon phase, think twice, take a deep breath, > let it out slowly, and delete their message. > > There are some truly awful things going on in the world today that > merit heated discussions. The lute is not one of them. > > Tim Motz > > On Saturday, December 6, 2003, at 11:27 PM, Vance Wood wrote: > > > Trouble is-----a lot of them drop out or go underground because the > > group that should be supporting them and encouraging them is by far > > and away as friendly as a pack of junk yard dogs. As a whole I have > > never been exposed to a group, boasting interest passionately in a > > particular endeavor, that is more driven by ego, pride, > > condescension, duplicity and judgementalism. Before you get mad at > > me read through the posts that have flooded email servers world wide > > over the last week or so and ask yourself: If you were new to the > > Lute would you feel safe and confident in posting a question to this > > bunch of brigands? > > > > There are some fine people in this group that posses a wealth of > > knowledge but in asking a question you have to first consider what > > side of the fence you might fall on to and who is going to consider > > you one of theirs and one of his and one of yours. This is absurd > > and self destructive. I just wish every one would temper their > > opinions with a little good sense realizing that you or I don't like > > everyone and everyone does not like you or I. That's the truth of it > > BUT!!! we all love the Lute. > > > > Vance Wood. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Daniel Shoskes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Size of the > > lute world > > > > > >>> As I was deleting another repetitive pain in the ass flame post in > >>> the > > ongoing > >>> battle between the > >>> greedy billionaire lute publishers and the brave Trotskyist > >>> proletariat > >>> struggling to free the > >>> world's tablature I think I noticed an estimate of about 4000 lute > > players > >>> worldwide. Is this a > >>> reasonable estimate? > >> No. I estimated a maximum of 3000. > >> > >> > >>> Would these range from serious players to people with a > >>> lute in the attic they > >>> haven't touched in 15 years? Include guitarists who tune their g > >>> string > > down a > >>> half step? Include the > >>> pipa and oud? Those people with a Lute Olsen signed basketball? > >> No. It is based on membership lists of lute societies and Google > >> sightings of unaffiliated players, with an added roach assumption > >> that there is 1 > > more > >> invisible lutenist to 2 already visibles. Also numbers of lute > >> teachers > > and > >> luthiers are taken into account. > >> The number is expected to grow because several schools put out > >> lutenists > > at > >> a steady rate. > >> RT > >> > >> ______________ > >> Roman M. Turovsky > >> http://turovsky.org > >> http://polyhymnion.org > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >
