Dear Arthur,

for me has ever been a pleasure to read yours truly informative e-mails, on 
every subject and in all occasions.
I hope that you will continue to spend part of your time wrinting on this list. 

Best wishes

Paolo Declich




> In the present discussion it is important to understand
> the essential difference between an ARRANGEMENT and a
> TRANSCRIPTION.  Thames misses the point completely when
> he equates the two (see below).  The terms are not
> interchangeable, when used according to their proper
> meaning.
> 
> When I studied privately with Julius Gold in Hollywood
> as a teenager, I recall one of his watch words:  "Fit
> the music to the instrument."  Likewise an arrangement
> takes a pre-existent work, say one by Giulio da Modena,
> Byrd or Couperin, and adapts and re-works it into an
> idiomatic piece for another instrument. You "fit" the
> music from one
> instrument to another, especially when dealing with a
> complex instrument like the lute or guitar. Master
> lutenists such as Melchior Newsidler, Holborne, Cutting,
> Dowland, de Visée, da Crema, Francesco, Gauthier, and
> the like, often made such works. The  new work for lute
> is
> created from, say, a keyboard or vocal composition, or
> even instrumental ensemble partituras (e.g., ricercars
> and
> fantasias by Giulio da Modena done up by da Crema and
> others).
> 
> If done well, these are as valid as are works originally
> conceived for lute. And it is wrong to accord them
> second class status, as Thames
> does. Several lutenists on this List have already
> testified to the beauty and effectiveness of such music.
> 
> (Denys, "O bone Jesu" is by Antonio de Ribiera (not
> Compère), a  Spanish musician in the papal chapel during
> the time of Francesco's tenure as chamber musician. It
> does have
> that  sultry mood of Spain. A manuscript in
> Tarazona calls it "il più bel motetto del mondo."  It
> surely represents another effective work arranged for
> lute. You should publish your arrangement for voice and
> lute in the Lute News.  Alla Wm Birde.<g>)
> 
> In contrast a TRANSCRIPTION is simply a re-writing from
> one system of notation to another.  In the FWVB, Byrd
> made transcriptions, NOT arrangements.  In this
> instance, lute music is not "fitted"
> or adapted to the keyboard instrument. It is just simply
> transferred directly from one notational system
> (tablature) to another (grand staff). Byrd's labor was
> no different than that of a modern transcriber/editor of
> lute music.
> 
> Byrd's transcrptions made available lute music on the
> grand staff for keyboard players who could not read lute
> tablature, and for those lutenists who preferred to play
> from pitch notation.
> 
> Thames's assumption that notation on
> the grand staff miraculously changes lute music into
> keyboard music is just as invalid as his notion that
> lutenists cannot read pitch notation.  There are
> examples of lute music in pitch notation back to the
> 15th century, and of course modern
> editions of lute music have for a century used the grand
> staff, with usually a nominal G tuning.  The standard
> way of notating lute music.
> 
> Judging from the inclusion of elementary instructions in
> many early lute tablature books, tablature was
> originally intended
> for novice players.  But it was easy to print, and
> survived because of the many scordatura lute tunings in
> the 17th century.
> Somone counted 28 of them.  Pitch notation would make
> that jumble of tunings a real mess for even the most
> skilled player.  Tablature was a practical solution.
> 
> Oh yes, there's a lot more lute music by Byrd than I
> indicated before. There are a whopping 182 works with
> lute in the Paston Books alone, albeit many adapted for
> lute from vocal music (as I said when I first mentioned
> the Byrd works). Over the years Paul O'Dette and Julian
> Bream have explored some of this repertory, so it is
> hardly uncharted territory.  Stewart McCoy has published
> some editions of the songs with lute.  Of course, no one
> has yet studied the dance pieces to determine whether
> they were
> done up first as lute or as keyboard music. Byrd studied
> with Ferabosco, after all.
> 
> **Of course much lute music was conceived in pitch
> notation, most likely on the grand staff or in
> partitura.  See Jessie Owens excellent study, _Composers
> at Work: The Craft of Musical Composition 1450-1600_
> (OUP).  There are very  few surviving examples of lute
> music sketched in tablature.  I can list them (page byu
> page) on one
> hand.  Composition with all the correction was first
> done on erasable tablets of various sizes, so the
> evidence disappeared.
> 
> ajn
> P.S. I have not read any further remarks from
> Thames on this and other matters.  For the first time
> in all the years on the List, I have had to place a
> a person on a"kill list." I will have no use for an
> individual who is abusive in his public and private
> communications.
> ====================================
> Michael Thames wrote
> Auther,
>   Transcriptions of original keyboard compositions to
> the lute, are NOT
> original lute pieces, and transcriptions of original
> lute pieces to the
> keyboard, are not keyboard pieces, they are what we
> "village idiots" refer
> to as ARRANGEMENTS, or transcriptions, or neither, just
> popular tunes of the
> time, played on what ever instrument was hanging around.
> <<snip>>
> 
> 
> 
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