On 9/18/07, Anthony Hind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > In the piano trade, we have the Dampp-chaser. This is a name-brand
> > humidity control system designed for pianos
>
> I will make a search on this damp chaser, but it sounds more as
> though it removes humidity, Here it is more a problem of increasing it.
>
> I imagine this thing will be rather expensive and perhaps large. Do
> you have any details?
>

There is a link off the Dampp-Chaser home page (which is dampp-chaser.com) to
http://acousticsaver.com/
This is an oak cabinet with glass display windows and, apparently, a
Dampp-Chaser built in. At $5500USD (with options in cabinet wood,
whether they crate it or you pick it up uncrated and number of guitars
it'll hold, that can rise another $1750!) I'd call that expensive!

The AcousticSaver really is the paranoid's approach to displaying an
instrument! Ideally, the humidistat will be tuned to the %rel humidity
that acoustic guitar maker factories maintain, too. This may or may
not be appropriate to lutes.

If you have a glassed-cabinet you want to employ, I'm sure you could
get something to control its humidity. A Dampp-Chaser for installation
in a piano is priced according to the type of piano, upright or grand.
The price is different for the two configurations, with the Grand
version being more expensive. A piano technician who installs
Dampp-chasers can very likely help you choose a custom system, since
the individual modules are available to the technician as separate
parts. But the point is that a Dampp-Chaser can be applied to a
cabinet if you want an ideal resting place for your lute, and the
cabinet can have windows like the AcousticSaver does. (And probably
won't clash with your other furniture and may not even cost an arm
_and_ a leg!)

There's a cost-of-installation link on the Dampp-chaser home page.

As for increasing humidity, the system is exceedingly good at doing
this, in a controlled manner. The humidifier is a warm-element
web-type, and can wick a half-gallon reservoir dry in a week when
first installed (and the piano is very thirsty!). The humidifier pads
need to be replaced every 6 months, and normally engender a $10-15
adder to the price of a semi-annual tuning. (Of course, you don't need
your lutes or cabinet tuned by a professional piano technician 8^)
There is also an additive (normal humidifier additives are actually
corrosive and shouldn't be used on instruments anyway!) which comes in
small bottles and lasts a long time, at a half-capfull per reservoir
refill.

You can get humidify-only or dehumidify-only systems, but to be
honest, I'd go whole-hog, simply because, if you're humidify only and
the humidity in the enclosure gets too high, there's no way to get it
down again without just venting the cabinet and exposing the
instruments to very low humidity until it gets back up again to too
much. In short, it's going to regulate humidity in the box, not just
raise it. (just raising humidity is what the snake did, anyway.)

I don't know if Dampp-Chaser is available over seas...ok, the site has
links to overseas dealers.

Of course, none of this is a _good_ solution on the case-level. The
best you can do there is to have a humidity meter in the case, and try
to balance between a humidifier (snake or stone) and opening the case
to let humidity out and dry air in. Or, if it's too humid, take the
snake/stone out!

ray



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