Le 3 juin 08 à 16:32, howard posner a écrit :
On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:24 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

the lute
player on the cover of Hoppy's 'Vieux Gaultier' CD
(who's the artist?) plays an instument with the first
and second courses red but also the BASS string only
of the 7th course.  All the other ones are pale.
Why?

Maybe as a visual cue, the way harpists color their C and F strings
today...
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But surely a harpist, can look at the strings, that is more difficult for a lutist? It could be that those top strings had undergone some special treatment, which still might not be loading, but that is pure speculation on my part. It could also be a whim of the painter, looking for some sort of symmetry with the basses, or a string maker could have become famous for his red basses, and be cashing in on that fact tby dyeing other strings red. That does of course mean that just the fact that some strings are coloured, does not form a sufficient argument in favour of the loaded gut string hypothesis (loading could exist that gives no colour whatsoever, or a yellow colour, indistinguishable from gut). The fact that these red or brown strings are frequently the basses that you would need to load today, is a small argument in that direction, but it is the accumulation of such arguments, in which no one is conclusive, that may lead us to prefer this hypothesis, to the alternatives, which I have discussed, particularly when we consider the existence of short Baroque lutes with very small bridge holes. Nevertheless, the other alternatives, as Martyn has said (low tension strings, and toroidal ropes), should not be brushed aside without due consideration.

Please note that when I say, "should not be brushed aside", I am only talking about hypothese on historical strings. Even if we were to prove that one hypothesis was far weaker than the others, it does not necessarily mean that soundwise the solution is bad. Both Charles Besnainou and I think Satoh, have two-headed 14 course lutes. Perhaps, these did exist, but Charles told me he built his as an interesting experiment with no particular thought to authenticity. They may still be able to play superb music on these, by getting the maximum out of the strings they each prefer.

I think there is an argument in favour of trying to rediscover the sound structures (string types, lute shapes, etc) around which a particular lute piece might have been constructed, especially when we are talking about a composer whose compositions search out the full potential a particular technology can produce, but that does not exclude other aproaches to the same material, including clever use of metal-wound basses, and lute shapes which allow the performer to acheive more with pure gut than perhaps any historical performer managed to do. I don't see anything wrong in that per se. Different approaches to the music are going to lead to less uniformity, and hopefully more interesting performances.
Anthony





Le 3 juin 08 à 16:32, howard posner a écrit :

On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:24 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

the lute
player on the cover of Hoppy's 'Vieux Gaultier' CD
(who's the artist?) plays an instument with the first
and second courses red but also the BASS string only
of the 7th course.  All the other ones are pale.
Why?

Maybe as a visual cue, the way harpists color their C and F strings
today...
--

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