Le 4 juin 08 à 10:40, Martin Shepherd a écrit :

Dear All,

Dowland (VLL, 1610, sig.Dv.) says:

"Some strings there are which are coloured, out of which choose the lightest colours, viz. among the Greene choose the Sea-water, of Red the Carnation, and of Blew the Watchet."

At this point he is talking about strings in general, not just bass strings, so it seems that all kinds of strings were made in different colours. I assume he recommends the lightest colours because a dark colour would make it harder to assess the quality of the string, but he doesn't say so explicitly.

Martin
I have a brown Venice which is just as good as the lighter yellow one. I actually prefer it for the appearance, but not the sound. It is true that colour is not a proof alone of anything. Indeed, loading can also result in various colours, but it sounds unlikely that this is exactly what Dowland is speaking about here. Nevertheless, this does seem to imply that string makers were experimenting in dyeing strings, and if that is so it is even more likely that they would have thought of using recipes designed, by the dyeing trade, for leathers, and these certainly did include dyeing with oxides (a form of loading), even if it might not have been called so.

As I said previously, the leather dyeing trade in Italy (where these recipes were definitely applied) was situated in the same region from where the centre of the powerful string guild was situated (whose tentacles were to spread to Munich, to Spain, to Lyons and even Paris). If the string makers were trying out the various effects of dyeing strings, it seems probable that they would have tried these out. If they liked the effect they would have commercialized them.
That does not necessarily mean that they did.

However, Mace, in his time, does say that Pistoys dyed red, are the best. He could just be partial to the colour (I do like the appearance of those red strings), but it seems more likely that the effect the dyeing process had on these strings was what made him prefer them. As red dye on leather, was at that time brought about by a metal salt, it is at least plausible that an oxide was involved.

I do agree that we can't just choose to give importance to Mace, and just to ignore Dowland, just because the one seems to confirm what we are looking for; but there may not be such a contradiction, if we consider that there was a period of intense experimentation in colouring processes on strings, but that the results initially, were not all particularly significant. Confronted with the variable results of these experiments, Dowland might have adopted the practical method of choice that you are suggesting, for the reason you suggest.

However, string colour is not the main argument in favour of the existence of loading, although, it is perhaps the most attractive, as you can hope to actually see the trace of them in a painting, especially if they all happen to be bass register strings. It is, indeed, striking when you see the colour of a loaded string so like that of a string in a painting. However, a more conclusive proof, other than finding a "fossilized" loaded string, would perhaps be finding details about a stock of red oxide, in the inventory of a string maker's atelier.
Anthony

Best wishes,

Martin



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