All the things on this list are uniquely French; they give the music 
the character.
For French music, the truffle is more important than the duck.
A ground bass can have the exact same harmony in France as an Italian 
one, but the sauce is different.
dt


At 01:08 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:
>This is all truffle sauce, but it tells you nothing about the wild 
>boar underneath.
>RT
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:59 PM
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: French Style
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>>That's a terrific question for which there is no easy answer.
>>Here's a few basic starting points:
>>1. It is different at different times--don't conflate the different genres
>>2. Inegal is the most misused and most misunderstood. Read the
>>original sources, don't rely on secondary sources.
>>At a minimum,Distinguish between coule & pointe, and distinguish
>>rhythmic inegal from articulation inegal--this is where it always goes wrong.
>>3. Read up on the "gout"
>>4. Learn all the agreements. Most people know 2 or 3, some know half
>>a dozen, few know them all.
>>You need to know at least a dozen, to put an arbitrary number on it.
>>5. Learn the three parts of the trill--the starting note, the
>>repetition, and the escape. Most people don't play their trills
>>right, or play them "evenly".
>>6. Use the 2/3rds rule for grace notes and the first note of the
>>trill as a starting point--the grace note is the long note, not the
>>other way around
>>7. Distinguish between the weight of medial and final cadential
>>trills and ornaments, the lighter ones are often at the end, not the
>>other way around.
>>8. At a minimum, read Monteclair on the agreements, especially for
>>the port de voix, the ornament which is most often performed
>>backwards (enough here for a separate post)
>>9. Also read the following which describes the actual ornaments used
>>in Rameau's time:
>>
>>Author: MCGEGAN, Nicholas;   SPAGNOLI, Gina
>>Singing style at the Opera in the Rameau period.  (Paris:
>>Champion; Geneve: Slatkine, 1986) Music. In French. See RILM
>>1987-00887-bs.    Collection: Jean-Philippe Rameau
>>
>>10. You are right about the language, lots to investigate there.
>>11. Listen to a few recordings of unmeasured preludes for
>>harpsichord, then arrange them for lute. A new take on stile brise.
>>
>>dt
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>>At 12:35 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:
>>>I'm wondering:  what is it that makes up the "French style" of
>>>Baroque music?  I don't mean particularly stile brise, notes inegall
>>>etc.  Those are obvious, and to me insufficient explanations to
>>>convey the French Baroque.  It seems to me there's more to it than
>>>that.  Are there, for example, considerations in the French style
>>>that have to do with the cadences and general kinds of rhythms of the
>>>French language itself?  What things does one need to understand /
>>>appreciate in order to make effectively rhetorical music in the
>>>French style?
>>>
>>>Anybody got any ideas on this?
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>David Rastall
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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