----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Andrico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "EUGENE BRAIG IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "List Lute"
<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:30 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Respighi


|   Dear Eugene, Arthur & All:
|
|   Actually, Respighi's other major source for material for his 'Ancient
|   Airs & Dances' suites was Chilesotti's _Lautenspieler des XVI
|   Jahrhunderts_, published in 1891.

I would hardly call THREE of 22 pieces a "major source."  Once again you
join Eugene in sending readers off on a wild goose chase.

|  This volume contains 'guitar'
|   transcriptions of the bits by V. Galilei,

The Galilei gagliarda used by Respighi is NOT in "Lautenspieler."  Please
note:  None of the other pieces in the suites are by Galilei.  The
Italiana (Suite I, No. 2B), often attributed to Galilei in rip-pff
guitar editions, is Anonynous.

| Molinaro,

Nope!  The piece Respighi used is not in "Lautenspieler."

|  Besard,

Just the Bransle and Campagnae.  None of the airs de cour are in
Lautenspieler.  They are from a different Chilesotti book, one of two
collections of airs de cour from 1914-15.  Both collections also in Forni
reprints from 1968.

|   Gianoncelli,

The Bergamasca and tasteggiata, combined by Respighi into one piece.

|  Boesset (via Marin, 1636),

Nope. Not in "Lautenspieler."  In the other anthology?

|   as well as a host of other good
|   composers of good lute music.  The volume was reprinted by Forni,
|   Bologna at some unknown date,

The date for the Forni reprint given in the book is 1978 (see the
colophon).  The original was publ. in 1891.

|   and is a worthy anthology ripe for
|   re-transcripiton into lute tablature.

The whole point I was attempting to establish is that for ALL of the other
(non-Codice) pieces
in the Respighi suites, the original tablature is easily obtained, and
there is no need to re-intabulate the pieces from transcriptions. The
whereabouts of only one source (the Codicetto) used in Lautenspieler is
unknown.  For all the other pieces the original tablatures are easily
obtained, many in modern facsimile
editions.

|   As for the 'rumor' qualifications of the existence of Chilesotti's
|   other original ms., one has to agree with Eugene that, until
|   published,
|   it remains folklore.  We would all truly love to see the evidence and
|   encourage the Italian lutenist to make his story more widely
|   available.

Do you know the meaning of the word "rumor"?  You might also check on the
meaning of the word "folklore."

Do you and Eugene mean to tell us that the Italian lutenist (whose name I
can no longer recall, even if I wished to reveal it in this context),
Thomas Schall, Dinko Fabris, Paul O'Dette, all the others and I are all
LIARS?  Or that the Italian lutenist doesn't exist?

Please see my response to Howard's message,
Parts 1 and 2.  I don't know what more evidence you want.  The only
"folklore" about the Lauten-Buch is the long established misinformation
that
Chilesotti's home went up in flames in a spectacular midnight blaze.
Nothing of the sort happened, as Dinko discovered.  Furthermore, all of
Chilesotti's papers survive, as I
indicated, and would likewise have been destroyed if such a fire had
destroyed his
library.

|   Best wishes,
|
|   Ron Andrico

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