Eh! Beef: ' Flesh of ox, bull or cow' (concise Oxford). No need to
reply....
MH
--- On Wed, 26/11/08, Anthony Hind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Anthony Hind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Universale
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "lute List" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 26 November, 2008, 10:35 AM
Martyn
It is because you said, "Note that beef (bull?) gut is
mentioned", Beef is not "bull", so I wondered where you had got
the
idea from.
MP said he was probably not speaking very fluently. The main thing is
that the two string types, are not identical.
Anthony
Le 26 nov. 08 A 10:05, Martyn Hodgson a A(c)crit :
>
>
> I wasn't confused about bull and Toro bros! Tthe beef issue
> comes from
> Universale's earlier web page (mentioned in the Aug 2007
> discussion I
> mentioned).
>
> I'm surprised we don't know more of the Toros business.
>
> MH
> --- On Tue, 25/11/08, Anthony Hind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: Anthony Hind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Universale
> To: "Martyn Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Daniel
> Winheld"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "lute List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, 25 November, 2008, 11:07 PM
> Dear Martyn and Daniel and all
> I think there may have been a lot of background noise during
> your conversation with Mimmo, and I think I have understood roughly
> the cause of the confusion.
>
> In fact, what Mimmo must have said was that one family of gut string
> makers was providing all these strong strings for Universale, La
> Folia, and Baroco, and that is the Toro Brothers (The Toro family are
> from the city of Salle, province of Pescara in the region of Abruzzo,
> Italy).
> This has nothing to at all to do with the strong strings made by
> Mimmo himself..
>
> When Mimmo mentioned 'Toro", you may have understood the related
word
>
> "tauro" (bull), possibly the meaning of the name. You then
perhaps
> thought that Mimmo was referring to the material from which the
> strings were made:
> made from tauro, rather than by Toro.
>
> The Toro brothers use indifferently beef and ram. (perhaps not
> actually ram, possibly "mutton", but I am not sure about that.
Ram
> strings are brown simply because they do not use peroxides on it,
> while they do use it on the beef gut.
>
> Mimmo's strings are usually semi-rectified, but this may not be the
> case with the Toro brother's strings.
> Also Mimmo's strong strings are unvarnished, just oiled. This might
> not be the case with the Toro either.
>
> Perhaps Daniel can enlighten us on this last point, as he is using
> them.
> Best wishes
> Anthony
>
>
> Le 25 nov. 08 A 09:36, Martyn Hodgson a A(c)crit :
>
>>
>>
>> I had a long conversation with Mimmo at last week's exhibition
in
>> London. One of the things we discussed was strong trebles: he
>> said (if
>> I understood him right) that ALL these higher tensile gut
>> strings are
>> made by the same Italian manufacturer who sells them to various
>> retailers.
>>
>> Incidentally, an earlier email about Universale strings and
>> responses
>> is to be found in the archives. Ref below. Note that beef
>> (bull?) gut
>> is mentioned.
>>
>> Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'
>>
>> Friday, 24 August, 2007 4:10 PM
>>
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