11th fret on top course 2-stroke e, 12th fret=2 stroke k. I think I
saw a two-stroke k in a manuscript of MN's music. must look again.
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----- Original Message -----
From: ""Mathias Rösel"" <[email protected]>
To: "'Lute Net'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:45 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Melchior Neusidler
| I've looked up the 1574 edition, but it doesn't contain rececari,
and
| the passemezzo La Milensa must be a different piece as it doesn't
| contain the given measure.
|
| My interest was to see how 11th or 12th frets would be written in
German
| tablature. The 10th fret on 1st course 9 with a dash above it. Notes
on
| the 11th and 12th frets would have to be letters with double dashes
| above them. I ran through the entire book but couldn't find any of
them.
|
|
| As for the measure from Recercar Terzo, XI could be a typo. Could be
| XII, could just as well be X. I for one would opt for X.
|
| XI in the measure from Pass'e mezo La Milanese does certainly not
mean
| XII. Could be XI, indeed, could just as well be X. I'd opt for X
again,
| considering XI a typo, because I couldn't find 11th or 12th frets at
all
| with Newsidler.
|
| Mathias
|
| "Richard Yates" <[email protected]> schrieb:
| > Perhaps it was overlooked in the surge of new threads, or maybe my
question
| > was just an uninteresting one with an obvious solution, but any
response to
| > the example I found below about the mysterious Melchior eleventh
fret would
| > be much appreciated. RY
| >
| > >I ran across another spot that confounds the question of the
| > >eleventh fret and its notation. In the Pass'e mezo Milanese
| > >there is a 'XI' symbol on the second course. It sounds to me
| > >like it should be played on the eleventh fret in contrast to
| > >other places (e.g. Recercar Terzo) where 'XI' seems to mean
| > >twelfth (i.e. octave) fret. Can anyone unravel this one?
| > >
| > >Check the graphic of both spots at
| > > http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Neusidler.jpg
| > >
| > >Richard Yates
| >
| >
| > >>Presumably he didn't have an 11th fret, so his 11th fret is our
12th,
| > >>if you see what I mean. :-)
| > >
| > >
| > >>>Why does M. Neusidler (Intabolatura di Liuto, 1566) uses the
| > >symbol 'X'
| > >>>for the tenth fret but 'XI' for notes that would normally be on
the
| > >twelfth
| > >>>fret?
| >
| >
| >
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|
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