Dear Friends,

>    Quite right, Dana, but if memory serves Milan introduces the 6 Pavanas
>    by saying that the next six fantasias are pavanas. The there's the
>    problem of pavans being generally in duple and some of the Milan
>    pavanas are in triple.



Dana: I am away from my copy of milan, so I cant confirm your memorys yea or 
nay; but no matter, the issue is one of performance practice.  

I can confirm that Milan states in quite certain terms that "the six following 
fantasias, as I said above, in their air and composition  are alike to the same 
pavans that are played in Italy, and, since they resemble them in everything, 
let's call them pavans". (Estas seis fantasias que se siguen, como arriba os 
dije, parecen en su aire y compostura a las mismas pavanas que en Italia se 
tañen, y pues en todo remedan a ellas, digamosles pavanas).  I believe we 
should be wary of considering these pieces as typical examples of pavans just 
from Milan's loose quotation which, besides, makes it clear that, in his view, 
they were first and foremost fantasias, to which we can add the fact that the 
sixth one (whose tune is not by him: "las dos que se siguen [i.e. the last two] 
la sonada de ellas se hizo en Italia" ) cannot be construed in any way as 
responding to the structure of a pavan (it has, in fact, the typical structure 
of a galliard).




Dana: All renaissance 'artists' had to contend with the conservative nature of 
the church; anything 'new' was risque (just ask copernicus or galileo).  The 
natural result was constant references to antiquity, and thematic borrowing 
from the works of your contemporaries to an extent that startles moderns who 
are used to the constrictions of copyright.  The quodlibet form seen at the end 
of the 15c takes this to an absurd level which is seen in many of the works of 
PDQ Bach and also in musical medleys.

This is not the case with Milan, he was a self-recognized amateur player and 
composer, moving in the circle of the court of Germaine de Foix, widow of 
Ferdinand, and composing and playing strictly within this aristocratic 
entourage, as it can be shown by his autobiographical book "Libro del 
Cortesano" (nothing to do with Castigione's).




Dana: Pavanna are dances, they are slow dances with the steps taken on the 
tactus, typically one step per modern measure.  Lots of time for slow graceful 
showing off by the strutting peacocks.  No matter if the tactus
is subdivided triply or duply.

As I stated above, the sixth "pavan" is by no means such a dance. As far as I 
can recall, I have never seen a pavan in triple time with the characteristic 
hemiola of the galliard. Speed has nothing to do with rythmic structure.




Dana: Fantasias in various forms are to be expected, forms are a useful 
compositional restriction, guidelines to work within. But the essencial freedom 
of a Fantasia lies in its theme(s), original matter, treated whimsically; 
showing all the the art of the composer (hopefully sufficient art to leave room 
for the performers art).

Not necessarily for Milan, who stated that fantasias are called thus because 
they proceed from the author's fancy. From this perspective, if Milan composed 
the pieces in question, they indeed proceed from his fancy, including the 
polemic sixth pavan, whose tune is not by him, but "the composition over it" 
(la compostura sobre la sonada de ellas es mia).




Dana: Dances often have structure, with sections needing repeat here, but not 
there because of the choreography.  The use of the bar is very irregular in 
this music from its inception, section marking is often unclear, even well into 
the editions of Playford; having a choreography is an immense help to decideing 
what sections need repeats; sometimes a lyric will serve the same purpose.  

Again, Milan´s indications leave no room for doubt: "They must be played with a 
somewhat fast air [so much for the slow pavan] and it is required that they be 
played twice or thrice" (Debense tañer con el compas algo apresurado, y 
requierense tañer dos o tres veces). Milan does not say "you may", he states 
"you must". 




Dana: Accidents of history deny us complete knowledge of the choreographies for 
all dance music, in some cases we have worthy choreographies begging for 
suitable music (eg, Mdm Sosilias Allemande).  In some cases we have the 
challenge of reconciling music to choreography where typos are suspect (Arbeau 
Bransle de la guerre, over the page turn an obvious pick-up note is not 
composited on the preceding page where is should have been but instead leads 
off the next and produces one-too-many notes and much confusion for all). Dana 
Emery

Again, I must stress that we cannot be too dogmatic and should consider each 
case from the point of view of the available evidence concerning each piece, 
composer, etc. In this particular case, I would be hard pressed to explain how 
slow pavans with the structure of a galliard could be played somewhat fast in 
general usage. We must take into account the composer, his background, context 
and entourage.

Best wishes,
Antonio


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