I have to say I would want to know exactly what kind of pick he had :) dt
At 05:11 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >I think the point George is making is that questions about minutiae >are just that, and perhaps there are more important questions to be >asked first. Sure the gear and technical details are interesting to >many, but they easily get put before the music. While I'm not the >biggest fan of George, I don't think that his choice of pick has a >profound influence on the way he sounds. > >If I heard Django (ok, not possible, so maybe Stochelo Rosenberg) >play a mind blowing solo, I certainly hope I would have the >restraint not to ask, "That was great, what kind of pick was that >you were using? And how exactly were you holding it? Ahhh.". > >On the other hand it can be difficult to ask meaningful >non-technical, non-gear related questions. (e.g. "George, if your >playing were a tree, what type of tree would it be and why?" or >"What was the inspiration for 'I drink alone'?"). > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "vance wood" <[email protected]> >To: "Lute List >" <[email protected]>; "Stuart Walsh" ><[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:19 PM >Subject: [LUTE] Re: The End of the Golden Age > > >>To someone who plays the instrument (what ever that instrument >>might be) things like picks, string tensions and string materials >>become important and interesting questions. As of this day and age >>discussion over the quality of reproduction Lutes, the way they are >>strung (octave or unison) and tunings with the use of additional >>frets are fodder for detailed discussion around here. If the >>professional being queried about such things thinks those subjects >>are irrelevant to the music then they are either lying or they do >>not want to reveal how they get the kind of sound that allows them >>to play the afore mentioned music in such a way that their >>performance becomes significant. After all thing are said and >>done, at least as far as "ancient music" is concerned, composers >>and their compositions and the matrix within which they occur have >>been discussed in great detail for many years. What is there about >>the music that we do not yet understand? What becomes important in >>this context is the performance; which brings us back to the >>original premise in the first sentence of this reply. >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Walsh" <[email protected]> >>To: "Ron Andrico" <[email protected]> >>Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:27 PM >>Subject: [LUTE] Re: The End of the Golden Age >> >> >>>Ron Andrico wrote: >>>> I'll add my two cents worth on the other thread. In a Guitar Player >>>> magazine interview from the 80s, when asked what kind of pick he used, >>>> George Thorogood's response was, "If you can't think of something more >>>> interesting to talk about, this interview is over." I guess we're not >>>> discussing the same genre but amusing anyway. >>> >>> >>>OK - but not the same genre and not really the same fundamental >>>issue. As a parallel, if a lute player were asked for details of >>>the string tensions they used, then maybe Thorogood's (?) response >>>might be in order. >>> >>>But Crawford Young's ideas on plectra - on the face of it - seem >>>to fundamentally different from just about all other plectra... >>>on any instrument. It's a bit like saying of someone who plays >>>the lute with gloves on: look forget the gloves, just listen to >>>the music, that's all that really matters. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Ron Andrico >>>> www.mingarda.com >>>> >>>> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:26:08 -0700 >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > From: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: The End of the Golden Age >>>> > >>>> > Very well put indeed. To realize the unforced, unedited perfection >>>> > that IS attainable- albeit by nearly superhumanly talented >>>> > performers- just go back to earlier "Golden Ages" of recording, like >>>> > the old 78 rpm days. Studio recordings as well as live recordings >>>> > done in one take. At the moment I am recalling the likes of Django >>>> > Reinhardt and Art Tatum (who at least were taped- earlier recordings >>>> > were not only uneditable but the performers also had to tailer the >>>> > movements to the time constraints of what could fit on one side of a >>>> > 78 record surface. Without sacrificing performance standards!) >>>> > >>>> > Dan >>>> > >>>> > Unfortunately, this exceptional cleanliness is produced via a >>>> > huge number of digital edits which will be undetectable and therefore >>>> > in a sense, "natural." The problem with this is that the edits where >>>> > never conceived of or performed as an organic whole so that finished >>>> > product, while smooth, often lacks life. Imagine if Martin Luther >>>> > King Jr. would have recorded his "I have a dream" speech by reciting >>>> > it 50 times, re-saying certain problem clauses or stumbled words, >>>> > then having some audio engineer piece the various takes (some perhaps >>>> > comprising a single syllable) together with 900 edits. Yes, his >>>> > voice as an object might technically sound "better" once the quivers >>>> > and explosions were taken out, but would it have the same sense of >>>> > outrage and urgency? What would be the point? >>>> > >>>> > Chris >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > To get on or off this list see list information at >>>> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> __________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. 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