Getting very interesting- I now remember (it was so long ago) when I 
got my first lute from the builder (Hugh Gough, NYC, 1973 approx.) he 
instructed me in the double fret method, not super thin but certainly 
thinner than today's typical singles- he also advised wetting them 
for a minute in warm water to make them more flexible, and then they 
additionally tighten a bit upon drying. Of course, that would be 
unnecessary if the gut was already naturally flexible.

The aesthetics of sound is interesting- I posted a thought about 
that, (forgot to copy it to the list) relating it to the Capirola 
reference to low action set deliberately for a little buzz.

Different sound world back then- and of course, Ron Andrico's points 
on tempo may be very well taken; I know in my own case there has 
often been far too much hurry, sometimes literally the pace of life- 
I have 20 minutes to play/practice, then run off to work- staying on 
top of too many instruments and styles in one lifetime also adds 
confusion and hurry. And when do my wife and I ever go out to dance 
pavans, galliards, voltas? Weiss never worried about maintaining his 
"Renaissance" lutes & techniques, Francesco never had to keep up his 
11 course lute, and his archlute, and also get the Volvo to the 
mechanic by 7:30 Tuesday morning,

Dan


>Well! As the jumping into hot water already started... The double 
>frets that we know of, came into use at the same period as the bray 
>harp, and the "bray" attachments in virginals. Again, aesthetics of 
>the sound, it was considered that a hard object slightly touching 
>the string near its' cut-off point makes sustain longer, and the 
>sound, well, more beautiful. When this effect is taken into 
>consideration and the frets tied with this idea, and the string 
>tension light enough for it to work, the results can be quite nice.
>It is certainly an important mantra: THEY WERE NOT CRAZY, they were 
>not crazy... alexander r.
>
>
>
>>  Martyn,
>
>>
>>  > The continuing, if strange,
>>  > fascination single loops seems to
>>  >    defy historical evidence and practical
>>  > experience.
>>
>>
>>  Time to wake up that sleeping dog!  Once again I'll jump into hot 
>>water and point out that the old gut material had quite different 
>>physical properties than our modern reconstructions.  This probably 
>>explains Mace's emphasis on stretching frets before putting them on.
>>
>>  Perhaps modern gut is hard/stiff enough to maintain its shape and 
>>allow for single frets.  On the other hand, if period gut was sort 
>>of "rubbery," it would therefore need to be doubled up in order to 
>>provide enough of a substantial bump on the neck to effectively 
>>stop a string.  This would in turn account for the tiny, tiny 
>>double frets seen in paintings.
>>
>>  Chris - has experience with both double and single frets.
>>
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