> De: Laura Maschi <[email protected]> > Fecha: 9 de junio de 2010 1:03:30 GMT-03:00 > Para: Paul Kieffer <[email protected]> > Cc: Miguel de Olaso <[email protected]> > Asunto: Re: [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings? >
> Hi Paul, can you recommend any fishing line maker? > Which brands have you trÃed? And is ir better the line or the leader > type? > So far I have only the reference for 'seaguar' a japanese maker, > that unfortunately is very difficult to get here in Argentina. > Suggestions welcomed! > Thanks > Laura > > Enviado desde mi iPod > > El 08/06/2010, a las 21:07, Paul Kieffer <[email protected] > > escribió: > >> I've been using carbon fishing line for some time now for just the >> top >> 'g' string on my 10 course lute. It works tremendously well, lasts >> incredibly long, and is about 1000 times cheaper than "lute string." >> >> If you live in any big or medium sized city, you should be able to >> find >> a store with the right diameter fishing line. >> >> They have the perfect diameters for the top string, I've tried >> anything >> from .36 mm to .42 mm. >> >> Make sure you don't get wound fishing line, because it won't >> stretch, >> of course. It just comes apart. >> >> Just yesterday I bought 140 meters of fishing line at .41mm >> diameter. >> It was around $20 Canadian. This new line has been on my lute for a >> day now, and it sounds and works amazing. >> >> I break the top string quite a bit, and having 140 meters of the top >> string is comforting. (If you're in a concert and the g string >> breaks...what are you going to do...go backstage and put another gut >> string on it, and then wait for it to settle in and then break >> again? >> Or you can just unravel some fishing line, stick it on there, and >> bam. >> It doesn't need any time to stretch or get settle really.) >> >> IMO, it's much better to go with this option, than it is to order >> strings online from expensive sources (*and many times unreliable). >> Also, when you order that stuff online, you pay huge shipping costs, >> and you have to wait 1-2 weeks (or 4 or 5). I've wasted a lot of >> money >> ordering actual lute strings when my top string would break. >> >> I've had very bad experiences with gut when it comes to the top g >> string... it's just not worth the effort or money if you ask me. >> >> I was weary at first about using fishing line, but when I put it >> on the >> lute and started playing, it was a miracle. And then I just keep >> the >> remaining 139 meters of string in the case... >> >> .40 mm tends to be on the larger side for fishing line. but almost >> all >> outdoor and fishing stores have it (and anything from .38-.48). >> They >> will probably think you are some fly fishing expert >> >> Paul >> >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV <[1][email protected] >> > >> wrote: >> >> Not all fluorocarbon fishing lines make good strings. I've had >> pretty poor >> luck with Berkley's house brand of fluorocarbon fishing line. >> Under >> continuous tension (e.g., as an instrument string), I have found >> it >> to fray >> and lose intonation along its length. I've had much better luck >> with P-Line >> CFX flourocarbon fly fishing leader material. It's much more >> expensive than >> large spools of line, but still much less expensive than an >> equivalent >> length of gut string. Most of the fluorocarbon made for fishing >> you'll find >> will be ca. 0.5 mm or thinner. >> Best, >> Eugene >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [2][email protected] >> [mailto:[3][email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Stathis Skandalidis >>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:04 PM >>> To: [4][email protected] >> >>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings? >>> >>> Dear Arto, >>> according to Makoto Tsuruta and his intuitive site >>> [1][5]http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html >> it's the >>> same material. >>> As I am living on an island, it is quite easy at least for me to >> find >>> fishing line. >>> Regardless your place of residence there are many on-line shops >> where >>> you could order it from. >>> A 25 m spool Seaguar Grand Max fishing line 0.405mm diameter costs >>> around 10 euros. That spool could give you 3 dozens of strings for >> a >>> g-lute, not a bad business at all! >>> Stathis >>> >> __________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> From: wikla <[6][email protected]> >>> To: [7][email protected] >>> Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 11:31:23 PM >>> Subject: [LUTE] Carbon strings? >>> Dearest lute gang, >>> one question about the "carbon" string material (=high density >>> hydrocarbon >>> polymer): >>> I have been using it much, but I have always ordered it from lute >>> string >>> makers. But as far as I know, this material was developed for a >> non >>> lute >>> world (fishing?). So, does anyone here really know, if the lute >> string >>> "carbon" and the fishing line "carbon" are the same thing and the >> same >>> quality? If yes, please let me know, where to get this quality >> "fishing >>> carbon"? I guess the fishers order their stuff in 100's of meters, >> and >>> to >>> me a couple of meters is the maximum per one string. In the >> fisher's >>> way, >>> those "unpackaged" strings could be _very_ economical to us >> lutenists? >>> Arto >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>> [2][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >>> -- >>> >>> References >>> >>> 1. [9]http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html >>> 2. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:[email protected] >> 2. mailto:[email protected] >> 3. mailto:[email protected] >> 4. mailto:[email protected] >> 5. http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html >> 6. mailto:[email protected] >> 7. mailto:[email protected] >> 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >> 9. http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html >> 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >> --
