The weights are for tuning--loop the string over one of those knobby things sticking out from the end of the neck and tie an appropriate sinker thereto.
Leonard On 6/8/10 11:06 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: >> So does the end with the hook go on the bridge or the nut? > It's those lead weights that I can't figure out ... > do they go between the rose and the neck? > T >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Paul Kieffer Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:08 PM To: Eugene >> C. Braig IV Cc: Stathis Skandalidis; [email protected] Subject: >> [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings? >> >> I've been using carbon fishing line for some time now for just the >> top 'g' string on my 10 course lute. It works tremendously well, >> lasts incredibly long, and is about 1000 times cheaper than "lute >> string." >> >> If you live in any big or medium sized city, you should be able to >> find a store with the right diameter fishing line. >> >> They have the perfect diameters for the top string, I've tried >> anything from .36 mm to .42 mm. >> >> Make sure you don't get wound fishing line, because it won't >> stretch, of course. It just comes apart. >> >> Just yesterday I bought 140 meters of fishing line at .41mm >> diameter. It was around $20 Canadian. This new line has been on my >> lute for a day now, and it sounds and works amazing. >> >> I break the top string quite a bit, and having 140 meters of the >> top string is comforting. (If you're in a concert and the g string >> breaks...what are you going to do...go backstage and put another >> gut string on it, and then wait for it to settle in and then break >> again? Or you can just unravel some fishing line, stick it on >> there, and bam. >> It doesn't need any time to stretch or get settle really.) >> >> IMO, it's much better to go with this option, than it is to order >> strings online from expensive sources (*and many times unreliable). >> Also, when you order that stuff online, you pay huge shipping >> costs, and you have to wait 1-2 weeks (or 4 or 5). I've wasted a >> lot of money ordering actual lute strings when my top string would >> break. >> >> I've had very bad experiences with gut when it comes to the top g >> string... it's just not worth the effort or money if you ask >> me. >> >> I was weary at first about using fishing line, but when I put it on >> the lute and started playing, it was a miracle. And then I just >> keep the remaining 139 meters of string in the case... >> >> .40 mm tends to be on the larger side for fishing line. but almost >> all outdoor and fishing stores have it (and anything from .38-.48). >> They will probably think you are some fly fishing expert >> >> Paul >> >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV >> <[1][email protected]> wrote: >> >> Not all fluorocarbon fishing lines make good strings. I've had >> pretty poor luck with Berkley's house brand of fluorocarbon >> fishing line. Under continuous tension (e.g., as an instrument >> string), I have found it to fray and lose intonation along its >> length. I've had much better luck with P-Line CFX flourocarbon >> fly fishing leader material. It's much more expensive than large >> spools of line, but still much less expensive than an equivalent >> length of gut string. Most of the fluorocarbon made for fishing >> you'll find will be ca. 0.5 mm or thinner. Best, Eugene >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [2][email protected] >> [mailto:[3][email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Stathis Skandalidis >>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:04 PM >>> To: [4][email protected] >> >>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings? >>> >>> Dear Arto, >>> according to Makoto Tsuruta and his intuitive site >>> [1][5]http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html >> it's the > same material. > As I am living on an island, it >> is quite easy at least for me to find > fishing line. > >> Regardless your place of residence there are many on-line shops >> where > you could order it from. > A 25 m spool Seaguar Grand >> Max fishing line 0.405mm diameter costs > around 10 euros. That >> spool could give you 3 dozens of strings for a > g-lute, not a >> bad business at all! > Stathis > >> __________________________________________________________________ >>>> From: wikla <[6][email protected]> > To: >> [7][email protected] > Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 11:31:23 PM > >> Subject: [LUTE] Carbon strings? > Dearest lute gang, > one >> question about the "carbon" string material (=high density > >> hydrocarbon > polymer): > I have been using it much, but I >> have always ordered it from lute > string > makers. But as >> far as I know, this material was developed for a non > lute > >> world (fishing?). So, does anyone here really know, if the lute >> string > "carbon" and the fishing line "carbon" are the same >> thing and the same > quality? If yes, please let me know, where >> to get this quality "fishing > carbon"? I guess the fishers >> order their stuff in 100's of meters, and > to > me a couple >> of meters is the maximum per one string. In the fisher's > way, >>> those "unpackaged" strings could be _very_ economical to us >> lutenists? > Arto > To get on or off this list see list >> information at > >> [2][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > > >> -- > > References > > 1. >> [9]http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html > 2. >> [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:[email protected] >> 2. mailto:[email protected] >> 3. mailto:[email protected] >> 4. mailto:[email protected] >> 5. http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html >> 6. mailto:[email protected] >> 7. mailto:[email protected] >> 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >> 9. http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html >> 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >> >> > > > Tom Draughon > Heartistry Music > http://www.heartistry.com/artists/tom.html > 714 9th Avenue West > Ashland, WI 54806 > 715-682-9362 > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
