And what I'm suggesting is that, by obliging the hand to be disposed
   in a particular way, it does affect the sound produced.  Whether it is
   'beneficial' is not quite the point (and as you say whether you are a
   modern guitarist): it's what was generally done at the time. MH
   --- On Fri, 1/4/11, Mayes, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:

     From: Mayes, Joseph <[email protected]>
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast.
     To: "Martyn Hodgson" <[email protected]>, "alexander"
     <[email protected]>
     Cc: "Herbert Ward" <[email protected]>,
     "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
     Date: Friday, 1 April, 2011, 15:50

      All of the players who learned to play their instrument with the
   little
      finger down will agree with you. There is copious evidence for this
      method being used in the 16th and 17th centuries. Early guitar
   tutors
      also suggest planting the little finger. What I am saying is that it
   is
      unnecessary, and has little or no beneficial effect on the sound
      produced. Also - it was obviously not universal for lutes,
   archlutes,
      guitars, what have you.
      Joseph Mayes
      On 4/1/11 6:59 AM, "Martyn Hodgson"
   <[1][1][email protected]>
      wrote:
        You are quite right - your email attached one of Jospeh Mayes to
        whom I should have directed that particular observation. I'm
   pleased
        you agree the little finger resting on the belly is a necessary
   part
        of historical lute technique.
        MH
        --- On Fri, 1/4/11, alexander <[2][2][email protected]> wrote:
        From: alexander <[3][3][email protected]>
        Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast.
        To: "Martyn Hodgson" <[4][4][email protected]>
        Cc: "JosephMayes" <[5][5][email protected]>, "Herbert Ward"
        <[6][6][email protected]>, "[7][7][email protected]"
        <[8][8][email protected]>
        Date: Friday, 1 April, 2011, 11:04
        Oh, yes, another thing, how did you come to a conclusion that i am
        arguing against the little finger support while i am arguing that
        only such a support allows to produce a decent sound on a lute?..
   al
        ray
        On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:05:16 +0100 (BST)
        Martyn Hodgson <[9][9][email protected]

   <[10][10]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmartyn@yah
   o
        o.co.uk> > wrote:
        >
        >    Dear Alexander,
        >
        >    What evidence do you have that early lutes (I presume you're
        referring
        >    to 16th century instruments) were strung at a lower tension
        than
        >    similar size later lutes?
        >
        >    And what evidence do you have that the tension of a guitar
        around 1800
        >    was 7 Newtons?
        >
        >    Early evidence on the use of placing the little finger on the
        belly is
        >    unequivocal - if we wish to attempt to reproduce what the Old
        Ones
        >    themselves heard it is clearly necessary to adopt the same
        techniques.
        >
        >    MH
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