Van Lennep may have also struck a compromise based on the size of the 
hands of lutenist for whom he made the instrument originally, and who sold 
it to me when she had had enough of luting.

Peter.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Ed Durbrow wrote:

> You have articulated the conundrum. Joel van Lennep is probably basing his 
> instruments on historical instruments. Spacing on historical instruments is 
> sometimes impossible for us moderns. We might collectively be missing 
> something. Either they had some string technology we are not aware of or they 
> liked twang or they played very lightly near the bridge. Who knows?
>
> I'll dig out my archlute and see what the spacing is. Again, I had the bridge 
> re-drilled on it to give me more space on the double courses.
>
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Peter Nightingale wrote:
>
>> Ed, Suzanne, Roman, Alexander, ...
>> 
>> Thanks for your suggestions.  I remain confused by colliding strings and
>> ditto realities.
>> 
>> I cannot believe that Joel van Lennep would make an instrument with the
>> design flaws your comments imply.  Could it be that my lute does not live
>> up to your expectations, because it is a 14 course archlute.  (BTW,
>> Suzanne seems to have a space problem too.) The courses have to be close
>> together for the instrument to be playable, it would seem.  The distance
>> between the string of the 6th and 7th courses is is roughly 4mm, 8mm, and
>> 4mm.  If pairs of the individual courses were to be 5mm apart, this would
>> become 5mm, 6mm, 5mm.  It would introduce a 6.5th course, a revolutionary
>> design!  My guess is that the compromise that was made tries to avoid the
>> the clanging disaster by creating more space at the nut.  Actually, there
>> is more: the octave strings are slightly closer to the sound board than
>> the fundamentals in both courses.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Peter.
>> 
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