Absolutely no similarity in style :) A lot of people, probably fifty who went on to be professionals in Early Music, were at Iadone's program in Putney VT, so you would have a good bar bet as to who was the best known, but Tyler and Binkley would be right up there in the lute world, and of course Bagby, Taruskin, Bernfeld, Cunningham, Western Wind singers, you name it. I suppose technically, WD Snodgrass was probably a lot better known than Tyler or Binkley, and he did have the first theorbo in America, I imagine. You can see some amazing banjo playing by Tyler on youtube. I remember from those days also Richard Dyer-Bennett visited, perhaps the year was 1972 that he was there. __________________________________________________________________
From: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> To: Edward Mast <nedma...@aol.com> Cc: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 6:14:15 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Right hand plucking position - was Re: Quality vs Quantity Jim was one of these rare birds - a very fine musician AND a respected musicologist. Bill From: Edward Mast <[1]nedma...@aol.com> To: William Samson <[2]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Lute List <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 13:45 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Right hand plucking position - was Re: Quality vs Quantity Hi Bill, Certainly Jim Tyler would be the most well known (at least as a performer) of Iadone's students. But I don't know if there is any similarity in playing styles - I haven't really heard Tyler. Chris williams studied with Iadone and recorded a bit with the NY Pro Musica, as did Lucy Cross. But Iadone was a unique musician; the only comparisons that come to mind are musicians such as Art Tatum or Oscar Peterson. He developed that kind of rhythmic excitement. I attended some of the summer music workshops that he directed, and never had a lute lesson or heard a lute solo. All ensemble work, singing, theory, or lute songs, and of course faculty and student concerts - but no solos. A different emphasis. Best, Ned On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:18 AM, William Samson wrote: > Hi Ned, > It looks like quite an independent strand of development of lute technique was developed by Iadone, likely starting with the same sources as Poulton used. I think Diana Poulton and Susanne Bloch became great friends in the '60s, but I could have my date wrong there. Diana did attend at least one LSA get-together. > I would guess Iadone's influence on this side of the Pond mostly came via his student, the great Jim Tyler, who lived in London for many years. > I wondered if Paul O'Dette had studied lute with him, but as far as I can see the only lutenist teacher mentioned in his resume is Eugen Dombois - yet another strand! > Best regards, > Bill > > From: Edward Mast <[1][4]nedma...@aol.com> > To: William Samson <[2][5]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: Lute List <[3][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2012, 21:36 > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Right hand plucking position - was Re: Quality vs Quantity > > Fortunately, I think, Iadone had no teacher (of lute) . He was from quite a different musical and lute 'family' than Dolmetsch and Poulton; no relation to Dolmetsch, I would say, and only a very distant relation to Poulton. > > Best, > > Ned > On Mar 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, William Samson wrote: > > > I couldn't agree more, Ned. But Schaeffer was the one who successfully proselytised and tipped the balance. > > > > Even before Iadone there was Arnold Dolmetsch - a flesh-plucking-pinky-on-bridger, uncontaminated because he learned straight from the sources and didn't play classical guitar first. Here's an image of him around 100 years ago: > > [4][7]http://tinyurl.com/ccmoxu6 > > > > He went on to teach Diana Poulton, who went on to teach . . . almost everybody! > > > > Regards, > > > > Bill > > > > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [5][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- -- References 1. mailto:[9]nedma...@aol.com 2. mailto:[10]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 3. mailto:[11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. [12]http://tinyurl.com/ccmoxu6 5. [13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:nedma...@aol.com 2. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:nedma...@aol.com 5. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://tinyurl.com/ccmoxu6 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. mailto:nedma...@aol.com 10. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 11. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 12. http://tinyurl.com/ccmoxu6 13. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html