Sanz advises storing strings in a little pot in almond oil to keep them supple....

se deven conservar en una cagilla, o canon de oja de lata, o sino en una vadanilla con azeite de almendras dulces......y assi tendras las cuerdas frescas.

Monica

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Chapman" <manchap...@gmail.com>
To: "alexander" <voka...@verizon.net>
Cc: "Mark Probert" <probe...@gmail.com>; "lute-cs. edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: the point of synthetics - Rather the movement of the whole lute


  Interesting. Weren't strings sometimes also treated with certain oils -
  almond oil I think? I hadn't realised that this could potentially
  protect against humidity changes.

  Sam
  On 6 October 2012 15:05, alexander <[1]voka...@verizon.net> wrote:

    It needs to be understood, i think, that there are clearly two
    elements in the pitch (in)stability. The string material and design
    is, of course one. But for the light and breathing, as it is, lute,
    the movement of the whole structure, most likely influences the
    tuning much, much more. So, in this case, chasing the string mole
    while disregarding the body movement monster, is not going to solve
    anything. Especially with the synthetics, - the differences observed
    here are the result of a different stretch - flexibility of the
    materials, rather then some radical reaction from the material to
    the temperature - humidity change. (Of course the wound strings,
    consisting of two conflicting materials are a problem of its' own).
    Just one brief look at the size of a single string and comparing it
    with the size of the whole instrument should make one to realize
    something here, right?
    I do not have an information on the early lutes in this regard, but
    early - baroque - bowed instruments as well as some later violins,
    especially those built and used in bad climes, had the inner wood
    surfaces treated with the mixture of hide glue and linseed oil.
    (There were actually some arguing this might have improved the
    instrument sound - to some tastes, that is, just off the top of my
    head - look up Frederick Castle's "Violin tone peculiarities"). Some
    other varnishes on the inner wood surface were observed as well. I
    have seen them on museum instruments. And some varnishes penetrated
    the wood deeply enough to create more wood stability. Think Cremona
    here.
    Protecting the inner wood surface of the lute would do much more to
    stabilize its' tuning in the case of rapid weather changes. But this
    will never happen, i would hazard to guess. Chasing a perfect string
    - there is the solution, of course.
    alexander r.
    On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 12:17:41 +1000
    Mark Probert <[2]probe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > My $0.02, living in Sydney Australia, is that nylgut mitigates
    some
    > of he effect of fairly extreme weather changes.  We can have a
    thunder
    > storm roll in and have the temperature drop by 10+C in the space
    of as
    > many minutes.  Gut just gives up in those circumstances.
    >
    > Part B of this is the effect of the weather on the wood of the
    > instrument.  One of my lutes is more stable than the other in the
    > pegbox department.  When we are in a changing time, I am forced
    not to
    > play this instrument for days at a time (I really don't enjoy the
    tune,
    > tune, tune aspect).
    >
    > Then, isn't there the old adage of lute players spending half
    their
    > time tuning and the other half playing out of tune?  This is not a
    new
    > problem, though I do believe that synthetics help.
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > --
    >  mark.
    >
    >
    >
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