Maybe, but then how will you explain a quote from Mace p.66: "I have sometimes seen strings of a yellowish color very good; yet but seldom; for that color is a general sign of rottenness, or of the decay of the string. There are several sorts of colored strings, very good; but the best was always the clear blue; the red commonly rotten." As far as I understand red color is a most popular color of loaded string. If this is so, how then they could be commonly rotten?
All best Jaroslaw Wiadomość napisana przez Anthony Hind w dniu 6 paź 2012, o godz. 21:12: > Loading, to a certain extent does protect against humidity changes. > Perhaps there may have been other treatments that we don't know about. > Anthony > __________________________________________________________________ > > De : Sam Chapman <[email protected]> > A : alexander <[email protected]> > Cc : Mark Probert <[email protected]>; lute-cs. edu > <[email protected]> > Envoye le : Samedi 6 octobre 2012 18h03 > Objet : [LUTE] Re: the point of synthetics - Rather the movement of the > whole lute > Interesting. Weren't strings sometimes also treated with certain oils > - > almond oil I think? I hadn't realised that this could potentially > protect against humidity changes. > Sam > On 6 October 2012 15:05, alexander <[1][1][email protected]> wrote: > It needs to be understood, i think, that there are clearly two > elements in the pitch (in)stability. The string material and design > is, of course one. But for the light and breathing, as it is, lute, > the movement of the whole structure, most likely influences the > tuning much, much more. So, in this case, chasing the string mole > while disregarding the body movement monster, is not going to solve > anything. Especially with the synthetics, - the differences > observed > here are the result of a different stretch - flexibility of the > materials, rather then some radical reaction from the material to > the temperature - humidity change. (Of course the wound strings, > consisting of two conflicting materials are a problem of its' own). > Just one brief look at the size of a single string and comparing it > with the size of the whole instrument should make one to realize > something here, right? > I do not have an information on the early lutes in this regard, but > early - baroque - bowed instruments as well as some later violins, > especially those built and used in bad climes, had the inner wood > surfaces treated with the mixture of hide glue and linseed oil. > (There were actually some arguing this might have improved the > instrument sound - to some tastes, that is, just off the top of my > head - look up Frederick Castle's "Violin tone peculiarities"). > Some > other varnishes on the inner wood surface were observed as well. I > have seen them on museum instruments. And some varnishes penetrated > the wood deeply enough to create more wood stability. Think Cremona > here. > Protecting the inner wood surface of the lute would do much more to > stabilize its' tuning in the case of rapid weather changes. But > this > will never happen, i would hazard to guess. Chasing a perfect > string > - there is the solution, of course. > alexander r. > On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 12:17:41 +1000 > Mark Probert <[2][2][email protected]> wrote: >> >> My $0.02, living in Sydney Australia, is that nylgut mitigates > some >> of he effect of fairly extreme weather changes. We can have a > thunder >> storm roll in and have the temperature drop by 10+C in the space > of as >> many minutes. Gut just gives up in those circumstances. >> >> Part B of this is the effect of the weather on the wood of the >> instrument. One of my lutes is more stable than the other in the >> pegbox department. When we are in a changing time, I am forced > not to >> play this instrument for days at a time (I really don't enjoy the > tune, >> tune, tune aspect). >> >> Then, isn't there the old adage of lute players spending half > their >> time tuning and the other half playing out of tune? This is not > a > new >> problem, though I do believe that synthetics help. >> >> Kind regards >> >> -- >> mark. >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- > Sam Chapman > Oetlingerstrasse 65 > 4057 Basel > (0041) 79 530 39 91 > -- > References > 1. mailto:[4][email protected] > 2. mailto:[5][email protected] > 3. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[email protected] > 2. mailto:[email protected] > 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > 4. mailto:[email protected] > 5. mailto:[email protected] > 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >
