The beauty of gut sound is greatly compromised by gut's insufferable 
intonation, especially on the octaved courses.
RT

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On Oct 6, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Jarosław Lipski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, varnishing helps, but doesn't totally stop a string absorbing humidity. 
> It rather protects  from wear and tear.I tried them. They sound duller, 
> inferior to normal gut and are not historical strings. This is what MP writes 
> about them on his website:
> "Gut strings are varnished in order to protect the strings from wear and 
> tear. The varnishing of strings is not a historical process; the earliest 
> samples of varnished strings we have found only date back to the 1920-30s. A 
> varnished string has a somewhat duller sound and the attack under the bow is 
> slightly more difficult and liable to whistle".
> When I use gut I do it for it's beautifull sound, so the idea of something 
> that has neither advantages of synthetics nor gut doesn't really suit me.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Jaroslaw
> 
> 
> Wiadomość napisana przez Sam Chapman w dniu 6 paź 2012, o godz. 17:34:
> 
>>  Well, there's gut and there's varnished gut. The latter may not have
>>  been used historically, but it absorbs much less humidity from the air
>>  and sweat from the fingers, therefore staying in tune well, maintaining
>>  it's tone quality and lasting longer. That said, I've not had much
>>  experience using varnished gut in concerts, but am now considering it
>>  as possibly a good compromise. It's certainly closer to plain gut in
>>  terms of feel and sound than any kind of synthetic string. Benjamin,
>>  what kind of gut do you use?
>> 
>>  best,
>> 
>>  Sam
>>  On 6 October 2012 12:26, Jaros^3aw Lipski <[1][email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>    No, it isn't a new problem. This is what Mattheson writes (1727)
>>    answering Baron in his book Ephorus, naming disadvantages of the
>>    lute:
>>    "Because of the many strings, and special strings (gut-strings)
>>    which depend more on stable temperature and humidity than other
>>    instruments (to stay in tune)."
>>    We don't know how gut strings of the past differed from modern ones,
>>    but just one thing shouldn't be disregarded - gut absorbs  humidity
>>    from the air, synthetics do not. Why synthetics go out of tune?
>>    Because of the temperature differences and bigger elasticity.
>>    From my experience I can only say that after changing a Nylgut
>>    string it takes quite a lot of time before it can be used for a
>>    concert, however then it stays in tune better than gut. But
>>    obviously it is possible to play a concert on gut strings providing
>>    that it is not in a very humid place (or one with changing air
>>    conditions).
>>    I wouldn't mix gut with synthetics though, as each material goes
>>    different way. So my advice is use either synthetics or gut
>>    depending on your wallet's size :)
>>    Best regards
>>    Jaroslaw
>>    WiadomoP:ae napisana przez Mark Probert w dniu 6 pa 1/4 2012, o
>>    godz. 04:17:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then, isn't there the old adage of lute players spending half their
>>> time tuning and the other half playing out of tune?  This is not a
>>  new
>>> problem, though I do believe that synthetics help.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> --
>>> mark.
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