Thank you - that is very interesting and helpful. Loved the Schmelzer and some of your other videos especaially the one with the dancers. It is amazing what's on Youtube! Could spend all night watching them.

Another non sequitur - I was curious to know what sort of church is is where you are performing. It is rather different in style from English churches I am familiar with....

Monica

Monica


----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tayler" <[email protected]>
To: "lute" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:52 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: A Christmas Contrafactum--sources for pizza.


  Chords and plucking on the viol:
  Well, there are a few different ways to answer that.
  The first is that the difference between the lute and the viol would
  have been much less than it is today. that is, the lute would have
  played more melodies and the gamba would play more chords.
  The second is that etymologically, the instruments were considered two
  sides of the same coin, so "viola" was "string instrument"; viola da
  mano was the lute (called vihuela in Spanish, viol in other languages)
  and viola "arco", "gamba" and so on was the same instrument, another
  way.
  And then we have the iconographic evidence, some of which may be
  fanciful of course.
  For this video, we adapted and recreated some techniques based on
  contemporaneous sources: Tobias Hume's The First Part of Ayres (1605):
  the player is asked in The Souldiers Song to aPlay three letters with
  your Fingers', and in "Harke, Harke" to "Play nine letters with your
  finger."  And in  Monteverdi's Combattimento di Tancredi e Clorinda
  (1624),  the players are directed to "pluck the strings with two
  fingers".
  Farina in  Capriccio stravagante, 1627, directs the violinist to play
  the violin like a guitar.
  We also use full bowed harmonies in the style of the lirone on the
  viol, because the lirone developed out of styles that were already used
  for the gamba.
  dt
  You can see this "lirone" style here:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pfoPVO4BsM
  They were a lively bunch, way back when!
  dt
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  From: Monica Hall <[email protected]>
  To: David Tayler <[email protected]>
  Cc: Lutelist <[email protected]>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [LUTE] A Christmas Contrafactum
  Great performance and very interesting - especially the lyrics which
  seem to
  have been culled from different parts of the canon.
  A bit of a non-sequitur but how common was it for the viola da gamba to
  pluck rather than bow the bass line?  What is the evidence is
  there....is
  there any?
  Monica
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "David Tayler" <[1][email protected]>
  To: "lute" <[2][email protected]>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:01 AM
  Subject: [LUTE] A Christmas Contrafactum
  >  One of the interesting features of Early Music is the way in which
  >  material was recycled. When I first saw the Contrafactum for
  >  Monteverdi's Chiome d'oro (for Easter), I remember wishing there was
  >  one for Christmas. But then I figured, how hard could it be to write
  a
  >  Latin version? Pretty hard, as it turns out, so I had a friend help.
  dt
  >  [1]aP: Claudio Monteverdi: Puer Natus (Chiome d'oro); Voices of
  Music -
  >  YouTube
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