Thank you very much! That is very interesting. We don't really have
Lutheran churches in England so the architecture and general setup were
novel to me.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Tayler" <[email protected]>
To: "lute" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:08 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: A Christmas Contrafactum--sources for pizza.
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The Church is St Marks Lutheran in San Francisco
The present church was constructed on two lots on O'Farrell between
Franklin and Gough that were bought for $17,500. A German-American
architect, Henry Geilfuss, designed a red brick church in a blend of
Romanesque style and Gothic elements. Three hundred fifty community
leaders and onlookers witnessed the cornerstone laying of the new St.
Markus, the largest German church in California. The church, which cost
$56,000 to build, was dedicated on March 10, 1895. A Schoenstein organ
and chandelier from Germany, donated by sugar tycoon Claus Spreckels,
were transferred from the Geary St. church to the new St. Markus.
During the dedication ceremony St. Mark's survived the first of many
earthquakes.
The name on the cornerstone, St. Markus Kirche, reflected the
congregation's German heritage. The church is a blend of Romanesque and
Gothic elements of pointed gables and arches, pier buttresses, and a
Rose Window. The red brick is set off by details of buff-colored brick
and Bedford stone. The lower tower has an octagonal base with a conical
roof, and the higher tower is squared with four upper corner turrets
and a pyramidal roof.
d
From: Nancy Carlin <[email protected]>
To: Monica Hall <[email protected]>
Cc: Lutelist <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:42 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: A Christmas Contrafactum--sources for pizza.
If I am not mistaken it's a church near the University of California
Berkeley campus where a lot of concerts are held. I've always thought
of it as designed to appeal to the transplants from the Eastern US and
it reminds me of big churches in the Boston area.
Nancy
> Thank you - that is very interesting and helpful. Loved the Schmelzer
and some of your other videos especaially the one with the dancers. It
is amazing what's on Youtube! Could spend all night watching them.
>
> Another non sequitur - I was curious to know what sort of church is
is where you are performing. It is rather different in style from
English churches I am familiar with....
>
> Monica
>
> Monica
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tayler"
<[1][email protected]>
> To: "lute" <[2][email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:52 PM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: A Christmas Contrafactum--sources for pizza.
>
>
>> Chords and plucking on the viol:
>> Well, there are a few different ways to answer that.
>> The first is that the difference between the lute and the viol
would
>> have been much less than it is today. that is, the lute would have
>> played more melodies and the gamba would play more chords.
>> The second is that etymologically, the instruments were considered
two
>> sides of the same coin, so "viola" was "string instrument"; viola
da
>> mano was the lute (called vihuela in Spanish, viol in other
languages)
>> and viola "arco", "gamba" and so on was the same instrument,
another
>> way.
>> And then we have the iconographic evidence, some of which may be
>> fanciful of course.
>> For this video, we adapted and recreated some techniques based on
>> contemporaneous sources: Tobias Hume's The First Part of Ayres
(1605):
>> the player is asked in The Souldiers Song to aPlay three letters
with
>> your Fingers', and in "Harke, Harke" to "Play nine letters with
your
>> finger." And in Monteverdi's Combattimento di Tancredi e Clorinda
>> (1624), the players are directed to "pluck the strings with two
>> fingers".
>> Farina in Capriccio stravagante, 1627, directs the violinist to
play
>> the violin like a guitar.
>> We also use full bowed harmonies in the style of the lirone on the
>> viol, because the lirone developed out of styles that were already
used
>> for the gamba.
>> dt
>> You can see this "lirone" style here:
>> [3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pfoPVO4BsM
>> They were a lively bunch, way back when!
>> dt
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Monica Hall <[4][email protected]>
>> To: David Tayler <[5][email protected]>
>> Cc: Lutelist <[6][email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LUTE] A Christmas Contrafactum
>> Great performance and very interesting - especially the lyrics
which
>> seem to
>> have been culled from different parts of the canon.
>> A bit of a non-sequitur but how common was it for the viola da
gamba to
>> pluck rather than bow the bass line? What is the evidence is
>> there....is
>> there any?
>> Monica
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Tayler" <[1][7][email protected]>
>> To: "lute" <[2][8][email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:01 AM
>> Subject: [LUTE] A Christmas Contrafactum
>> > One of the interesting features of Early Music is the way in
which
>> > material was recycled. When I first saw the Contrafactum for
>> > Monteverdi's Chiome d'oro (for Easter), I remember wishing there
was
>> > one for Christmas. But then I figured, how hard could it be to
write
>> a
>> > Latin version? Pretty hard, as it turns out, so I had a friend
help.
>> dt
>> > [1]aP: Claudio Monteverdi: Puer Natus (Chiome d'oro); Voices of
>> Music -
>> > YouTube
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> > Visible links
>> > 1. [3][9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPlE0ibIt0s&hd=1
>> >
>> > Hidden links:
>> > 3. [4][10]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPlE0ibIt0s&hd=1
>> >
>> >
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>> 4. [15]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPlE0ibIt0s&hd=1
>> 5. [16]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pfoPVO4BsM
4. mailto:[email protected]
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6. mailto:[email protected]
7. mailto:[email protected]
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9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPlE0ibIt0s&hd=1
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11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
12. mailto:[email protected]
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14. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPlE0ibIt0s&hd=1
15. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPlE0ibIt0s&hd=1
16. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
17. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/
